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Laying ceramic floor tiles in a kitchen? Stu 09-19-2006
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Posted by on September 19, 2006, 8:30 am
On 18 Sep 2006 23:47:40 -0700, "Stu"

>Hi, I am about to lay ceramic floor tiles in my kitchen, which is about
>5m x 7m. The problem is 40% of the floor is on floor boards and the
>rest is concrete (an extention). I have heard lots of stories that I
>would have to overboard the floor boards and that would cause another
>problem as the floors are the same height at present. Any ideas onthis
>and the best type of flexible tile bond/grout would be appreciated.
>
>Stu
>http://www.cateringappliancesltd.co.uk

Talk to the tile store about a membrane. This is a thin sheet that
goes under the tile and prevents movement under the membrane from
being transferred to the tile. It is very common when tile is laid
over "green" concrete that is probably going to crack.
It isn't cheap

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Posted by dadiOH on September 19, 2006, 8:53 am
Stu wrote:
> Hi, I am about to lay ceramic floor tiles in my kitchen, which is
> about 5m x 7m. The problem is 40% of the floor is on floor boards
> and the rest is concrete (an extention). I have heard lots of
> stories that I would have to overboard the floor boards and that
> would cause another problem as the floors are the same height at
> present. Any ideas onthis and the best type of flexible tile
> bond/grout would be appreciated.

Mastic is somewhat flexible - much more so than the cementacious
thinset normally used - but that doesn't matter...if the supporting
surface (boards) flexes the grout between tiles will certainly crack
and the tiles themselves may.

If the wood portion isn't suitable "as is" (probably isn't) and you
want both areas to be the same height then you'll have to increase
both areas by the same dimension; e.g., 3/4" ply + 1/2" cement board
over both wood and concrete. If there is any bounce to the boards now
you may well have to go thicker than 3/4" ply.


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Posted by webber1998 on September 20, 2006, 10:39 am


> Mastic is somewhat flexible - much more so than the cementacious
> thinset normally used - but that doesn't matter...if the supporting
> surface (boards) flexes the grout between tiles will certainly crack
> and the tiles themselves may.

I had a problem with a floor that flexed in one area even after using
the concrete backer board. Some of the original grout was cracking and
coming up in this one area about a year after installation.

We took out the old sand grout in that area and replaced it with epoxy.


Posted by Paulaner on September 20, 2006, 11:23 pm
1/4 inch hardibacker & thinset is my suggestion.


On 18 Sep 2006 23:47:40 -0700, "Stu"

>Hi, I am about to lay ceramic floor tiles in my kitchen, which is about
>5m x 7m. The problem is 40% of the floor is on floor boards and the
>rest is concrete (an extention). I have heard lots of stories that I
>would have to overboard the floor boards and that would cause another
>problem as the floors are the same height at present. Any ideas onthis
>and the best type of flexible tile bond/grout would be appreciated.
>
>Stu
>http://www.cateringappliancesltd.co.uk


Posted by dave_bonnell@hotmail.com on September 21, 2006, 10:21 am

Paulaner wrote:
> 1/4 inch hardibacker & thinset is my suggestion.
>

Schluter-Ditra is a product that supposedly eliminates cracking
problems. It's maybe 3/16" thick, so your height problem would be
minimized. Expensive though.


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