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Posted by man@privacy.net on May 10, 2008, 10:02 pm
wrote:
:Bob wrote:
:> There was an article in Saturday's paper about our local library
:> considering lending tools as well as books. It mentioned such
:> things as cement mixers, saws, etc.
:>
:> At first, I thought it was an interesting idea, but on second
:> thought I imagined how those tools could, and probably would, be
:> abused by people who don't know how to use them or care for them, or
:> just don't care.
:>
:> For example:
:> "I didn't know you weren't supposed to cut tile with a skill saw".
:> "I didn't realize there were nails in that old 2 X 4 - but the saw
:> cut them pretty good".
:> "Rain wasn't forecast, so I thought it would be okay to leave the
:> miter saw outside since I was going to use it in the morning".
:> "I thought I'd washed the concrete mixer pretty good - guess not".
:> Etc - etc.
:>
:> Then there is the liability problem:
:> "Your Honor, nobody showed me how to use that router well enough,
:> and that's how I lost a finger, and why I am suing the city".
:>
:> The article said there are other libraries that loan tools. Is
:> anyone aware of this practice and how it works in reality?
:>
:
:The Berkeley library has a branch that loans tools. Post-hole diggers,
:scaffolding, pressure washers, ladders, hand tools, whatever.
:
:Consequently, there are no tool rental stores in Berkeley.
There used to be at least one rental store, down on San Pablo sort of
near Channing, IIRC. Are they closed now? They had stuff you wouldn't be
able to get at the TLL, I think.
:
:How about libraries loaning tables and chairs for a reception? Trucks or
:trailers for that one-time move? Heck, why not limousines for the prom?
:Small airplanes for drilling holes in the sky on a lazy weekend? Deep-sea
:fishing boats? Clowns for your three-year-old's birthday party?
:
:I am not in favor of buring books. Most library administrators, however,
:should be herded together then somebody strike a flint.
Redneck?? In Berkeley?? Takes all kinds.
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Posted by Dick Adams on May 11, 2008, 10:32 pm
> The Berkeley library has a branch that loans tools. Post-hole diggers,
> scaffolding, pressure washers, ladders, hand tools, whatever.
>
> Consequently, there are no tool rental stores in Berkeley.
Sounds par for the course in Berkeley.
> I am not in favor of buring books. Most library
> administrators, however, should be herded together
> then somebody strike a flint.
Librarians are the most underpaid, underappreciated
of all public servants.
The quote from H. Rap Brown is that the solution to
the problems in the American Education System is to
tie the administrators to their desks, burn the
buildings down, and start over again. It is painful
that this solution would still work 40 years later.
But I will go into the inferno to save the Librarians.
Dick
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Posted by aemeijers on May 12, 2008, 8:11 pm
Dick Adams wrote:
>
>> The Berkeley library has a branch that loans tools. Post-hole diggers,
>> scaffolding, pressure washers, ladders, hand tools, whatever.
>>
>> Consequently, there are no tool rental stores in Berkeley.
>
> Sounds par for the course in Berkeley.
>
>> I am not in favor of buring books. Most library
>> administrators, however, should be herded together
>> then somebody strike a flint.
>
> Librarians are the most underpaid, underappreciated
> of all public servants.
>
> The quote from H. Rap Brown is that the solution to
> the problems in the American Education System is to
> tie the administrators to their desks, burn the
> buildings down, and start over again. It is painful
> that this solution would still work 40 years later.
> But I will go into the inferno to save the Librarians.
>
> Dick
...one of the secret masters of
the world: a librarian. They
control information. Don't ever p**s one off.
- Spider Robinson
--
aem sends....
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Posted by willshak on May 5, 2008, 8:01 am
on 5/5/2008 6:44 AM Bob said the following:
> There was an article in Saturday's paper about our local library
> considering lending tools as well as books. It mentioned such
> things as cement mixers, saws, etc.
>
> At first, I thought it was an interesting idea, but on second
> thought I imagined how those tools could, and probably would, be
> abused by people who don't know how to use them or care for them, or
> just don't care.
>
> For example:
> "I didn't know you weren't supposed to cut tile with a skill saw".
> "I didn't realize there were nails in that old 2 X 4 - but the saw
> cut them pretty good".
> "Rain wasn't forecast, so I thought it would be okay to leave the
> miter saw outside since I was going to use it in the morning".
> "I thought I'd washed the concrete mixer pretty good - guess not".
> Etc - etc.
>
> Then there is the liability problem:
> "Your Honor, nobody showed me how to use that router well enough,
> and that's how I lost a finger, and why I am suing the city".
>
The rental stores just tell you how to turn it on, in most cases, too.
> The article said there are other libraries that loan tools. Is
> anyone aware of this practice and how it works in reality?
>
> Just curious - Bob-tx
>
>
>
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
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Posted by Jim Yanik on May 5, 2008, 8:53 am
> There was an article in Saturday's paper about our local library
> considering lending tools as well as books. It mentioned such
> things as cement mixers, saws, etc.
>
> At first, I thought it was an interesting idea, but on second
> thought I imagined how those tools could, and probably would, be
> abused by people who don't know how to use them or care for them, or
> just don't care.
>
> For example:
> "I didn't know you weren't supposed to cut tile with a skill saw".
> "I didn't realize there were nails in that old 2 X 4 - but the saw
> cut them pretty good".
> "Rain wasn't forecast, so I thought it would be okay to leave the
> miter saw outside since I was going to use it in the morning".
> "I thought I'd washed the concrete mixer pretty good - guess not".
> Etc - etc.
>
> Then there is the liability problem:
> "Your Honor, nobody showed me how to use that router well enough,
> and that's how I lost a finger, and why I am suing the city".
>
> The article said there are other libraries that loan tools. Is
> anyone aware of this practice and how it works in reality?
>
> Just curious - Bob-tx
>
>
I wish someone would develop a commercial version of the USAF's auto hobby
shops.They had garage bays with basic tool sets,and a tool crib for loaning
special tools.
It would be nice to have a place to do some repair jobs I can't do in the
parking lot.
But,as others have mentioned,liability would be a problem.
I wonder;do USAF bases still have the auto hobby shops?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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