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Limited Attic Space, no insulation, need help fast kellykungfu-deja 08-22-2005
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Posted by on August 22, 2005, 6:29 pm


Cellulose is treated with flame retardant. That same flame retardant
(boric
acid) is a fine insecticide(snip)

That would work. I stand corrected.-Jitney



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Posted by on August 22, 2005, 10:12 pm


Wow, thanks for all the responses everyone!

Here is a pic of the ceiling to the "attic space" to the roof rafter.

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/41a50c03z69b19add/782f/__sr_/3533.jpg?ph3IrCDBOldFdIcO

The minimium amount of insulation could be the green arrow(about four
inches). However, I would like to go to the red arrow (about 6-7
inches but below the knob and tube wiring). The insulation companies
that I called said they would do a R-30 rating, so the knob and tube
would be covered, as soon with the yellow arrow.

Also, I'm selecting celloluse because of the low cost, natural material
and flame resistant. I'm thinking about the Cocoon brand that can be
viewed online at http://www.cocooninsulation.com


Thanks again,
kelly



jtnospam@yahoo.com wrote:
> Cellulose is treated with flame retardant. That same flame retardant
> (boric
> acid) is a fine insecticide(snip)
>
> That would work. I stand corrected.-Jitney



Posted by on August 23, 2005, 8:16 am


Sorry everyone, here is a better link:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kelly_kung/my_photos

Any ideas or comments about the moisture or condensation? Or should I
just fill up the entire cavity?


-kelly



Posted by Oscar_Lives on August 24, 2005, 3:10 am



> Sorry everyone, here is a better link:
>
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kelly_kung/my_photos
>
> Any ideas or comments about the moisture or condensation? Or should I
> just fill up the entire cavity?
>
>
> -kelly
>

Who did the wiring job? It looks like a bunch of 4-year old Special
Olympians were turned loose in your attic.

Better get the wiring corrected before you insulate.




Posted by zenboom on August 23, 2005, 5:06 pm



>
> > It seems to me that cellulose has two drawbacks- 1) It is flammable. 2)
> > It is biodegradable and can support the growth of some micro-organisms.
> > The manufacturer could add biocides to limit this second issue, but the
> > underlying problem remains.
> > Polyurethane foam OTOH is inert to most micro-organisms but is
> > flammable. Flame retardants can be added but if the surrounding wood
> > supports the flame, it will still burn but with a lot of toxic smoke.
> > Could I suggest a small layer of fiberglass insulation on the attic
> > floor? It is not as an efficient insulator as the others, but from your
> > description of the temperature extremes you don't need that much. By
> > the same token, it will not cause as much overheating of the wiring and
> > will not by itself burst into flame if that were to happen.
> > If access for laying an insulation matt is problematic, I believe
> > fiberglass can be blown in the form of "chops" much like cellulose
> > insulation. Perhaps another poster has details on this.-Jitney
>
> Cellulose is treated with flame retardant. That same flame retardant
(boric
> acid) is a fine insecticide.
> I would be much more concerned about toxic smoke from drapes, upholstery
and
> carpeting.
>

I have heard health warnings regarding loose glass fibre floating around, so
I'd avoid "chop"!
There may be roll-on matting of an alternative synthetic material available
to you, but that requires access. Look at foam in-roof, or under sheeting,
again.




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