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Load bearing wall removal question? Jetmech 02-25-2007
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Posted by Jetmech on February 25, 2007, 9:01 pm


I'm in the midst of removing a load bearing wall. Heres what Im up
against

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/jetmech727/scan-1.jpg

I'm removing the wall in question. This wall is sitting on top of
floor joists that run parrelel to it, with an attic above it with no
storage and a hip roof. The joists that span over it are 2x5's. They
run 10 feet and sit on top of the wall in question, then continue on
another foot and are face nailed to a 2X5 joist running from an inside
load bearing wall to the back wall. I cut the sheetrock from under
that joist and slipped in a joist hangar on each of the joists that
are face nailed to it. Then i went up and installed two 2x12's that
also sit on the middle load wall and span over to the back wall. I
then nailed and screwed the original 2x5 joist to the sistered 2x12.
Do you think this will be enough support? The two 2x12's with the
2x5 nailed to it span 11 feet. When I ripped the plaster off the wall
to expose the studs, I noticed that all the studs were pretty loose.
I figured if there was a big weight load on them, then would they not
be under compression? I can see the nail shanks on some of them
coming through the top plate.


Posted by BobK207 on February 26, 2007, 12:08 am


> I'm in the midst of removing a load bearing wall. Heres what Im up
> against
>
> http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/jetmech727/scan-1.jpg
>
> I'm removing the wall in question. This wall is sitting on top of
> floor joists that run parrelel to it, with an attic above it with no
> storage and a hip roof. The joists that span over it are 2x5's. They
> run 10 feet and sit on top of the wall in question, then continue on
> another foot and are face nailed to a 2X5 joist running from an inside
> load bearing wall to the back wall. I cut the sheetrock from under
> that joist and slipped in a joist hangar on each of the joists that
> are face nailed to it. Then i went up and installed two 2x12's that
> also sit on the middle load wall and span over to the back wall. I
> then nailed and screwed the original 2x5 joist to the sistered 2x12.
> Do you think this will be enough support? The two 2x12's with the
> 2x5 nailed to it span 11 feet. When I ripped the plaster off the wall
> to expose the studs, I noticed that all the studs were pretty loose.
> I figured if there was a big weight load on them, then would they not
> be under compression? I can see the nail shanks on some of them
> coming through the top plate.

Huh?

Kinda hard to follow your description......back wall, middle wall,
load wall? Quit it with the pronouns.

Label (or number) the walls in the sketch & consistently use those
labels (or numbers) .

Are you talking about floor joists or ceiling joists or both?

Add some white space to your posts....makes them easier to read.

What does the addition of the double 2x12 have to do with the "wall in
question"?

The problems in the system when you remove "the wall in question" will
be:

1. the connection between the joists (that where supported by the
wall, now removed) & the single joist that all (now unsupported) the
joists that frame into it. (see if they had numbers in the dwg,
they'd be easy to refer to)

2. the strength of the single joist (#?) that now supports all the
joists (#??) that were previously supported by the removed wall (#???)

My best guess it that your sketch contains some new construction as
well as proposed demo & modification of an existing structure.

cheers
Bob

>>>Do you think this will be enough support? <<<<

Short answer, no way.

cheers
Bob


Posted by gpsman on February 26, 2007, 1:38 am


snip>
> I'm in the midst of removing a load bearing wall. Heres what Im up
> against
>
> http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/jetmech727/scan-1.jpg
>
> I'm removing the wall in question.

Wear a hardhat.
-----

- gpsman


Posted by mikee on February 26, 2007, 5:53 am



| I'm in the midst of removing a load bearing wall. Heres what Im up
| against
|
| http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/jetmech727/scan-1.jpg
|
| I'm removing the wall in question. This wall is sitting on top of
| floor joists that run parrelel to it, with an attic above it with no
| storage and a hip roof. The joists that span over it are 2x5's. They
| run 10 feet and sit on top of the wall in question, then continue on
| another foot and are face nailed to a 2X5 joist running from an inside
| load bearing wall to the back wall. I cut the sheetrock from under
| that joist and slipped in a joist hangar on each of the joists that
| are face nailed to it.
| Do you think this will be enough support?


yes this is enough for the middle loaded wall
over kill if anything
you only needed one 2x6 (because that wall is staying) for fire stop
block.


"the wall in question"
in order to remove this wall
you will have to triple (add 2 more 2x6's) the carrying joist.
install hangars
post under each end all the way to basement beam or add column under
post
MUST BE SOLID FRAMING TO SOLID FOOTING
now you can remove the wall



Then i went up and installed two 2x12's that
| also sit on the middle load wall and span over to the back wall.

this is called a strong back


I
| then nailed and screwed the original 2x5 joist to the sistered 2x12.


screws are not as strong as nails for loads.




The two 2x12's with the
| 2x5 nailed to it span 11 feet. When I ripped the plaster off the wall
| to expose the studs, I noticed that all the studs were pretty loose.
| I figured if there was a big weight load on them, then would they not
| be under compression? I can see the nail shanks on some of them
| coming through the top plate.
|



Posted by Jetmech on February 26, 2007, 8:09 am


http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/jetmech727/Wall.jpg

This drawing shows where the new 2x12 sits.


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