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Looking for new home desgnr 10-09-2009
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Posted by on October 9, 2009, 2:52 pm


On Oct 9, 12:34=A0pm, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:31:25 -0400, Van Chocstraw
> >desgnr wrote:
> >> Is it safe to buy a home with Cinder Block basement walls instead of
> >> Poured Concrete ?
> >If you have a good footing, good mortar job and good fill around it that
> >drains the water 'away' from the foundation then it should be fine.
> >A cinder block foundation would be more susceptible to cracking and
> >separation with ground movement than poured foundations with rebar.
> Cinder blocks haven't been used in a LONG time. If the foundation has
> lasted this long in good shape, I think you can consider it pretty
> stable.


What needs clarifying here is exactly what type of block the OP is
talking about. Many people use the term "cinder block" to describe
both true cinder blocks and cement blocks. Cinder blocks are made
from cement and coal ash, are dark in color and much lighter than
concrete blocks. Concrete blocks are made from cement and aggregate.

I agree with you that true cinder blocks haven't been used in
construction for decades. At least not here in the NJ area.
Concrete blocks on the other hand are currently widely used in
construction, including basements.

Posted by N8N on October 9, 2009, 3:00 pm


On Oct 9, 2:52=A0pm, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Oct 9, 12:34=A0pm, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> > On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:31:25 -0400, Van Chocstraw
> > >desgnr wrote:
> > >> Is it safe to buy a home with Cinder Block basement walls instead of
> > >> Poured Concrete ?
> > >If you have a good footing, good mortar job and good fill around it th=
at
> > >drains the water 'away' from the foundation then it should be fine.
> > >A cinder block foundation would be more susceptible to cracking and
> > >separation with ground movement than poured foundations with rebar.
> > Cinder blocks haven't been used in a LONG time. If the foundation has
> > lasted this long in good shape, I think you can consider it pretty
> > stable.
> What needs clarifying here is exactly what type of block the OP is
> talking about. =A0 Many people use the term "cinder block" to describe
> both true cinder blocks and cement blocks. =A0Cinder blocks are made
> from cement and coal ash, are dark in color and much lighter than
> concrete blocks. =A0 Concrete blocks are made from cement and aggregate.
> I agree with you that true cinder blocks haven't been used in
> construction for decades. =A0At least not here in the NJ area.
> Concrete blocks on the other hand are currently widely used in
> construction, including basements.

right, there is a difference between cinder block and CMU.

That said, I'm pretty sure my basement is cinder block (I say "pretty
sure" because I'm only judging from texture; it's been painted) and I
have had no issues with it nor do I see any cracks of any
significance.

nate

Posted by John H. Holliday on October 9, 2009, 1:09 pm


> Is it safe to buy a home with Cinder Block basement walls instead of
> Poured Concrete ?
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Posted by Frank on October 9, 2009, 1:47 pm


desgnr wrote:
> Is it safe to buy a home with Cinder Block basement walls instead of
> Poured Concrete ?
>

Mine is. After 35 years, there have been a few settlement cracks that
I've patched but walls are fine. Look along the surface of the wall and
if it bulges inward, there is a problem, otherwise they should be fine.

Posted by John Grabowski on October 9, 2009, 2:59 pm



".
> Is it safe to buy a home with Cinder Block basement walls instead of
> Poured Concrete ?

Real cinder block has not been used in many years, but if the footings and
everything else were done properly you shouldn't have any problems.
Nowadays concrete block is used.

I have seen poured foundations that have cracked after a few years so don't
think that they are perfect. It goes back to how the materials were
installed and if the soil is stable and good footings are in place. If you
see sloping floors there is a problem. If the basement is unfinished go
look around at the foundation. Also look at the main support beams to see
if they are level.




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