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Low Noise saw (any saw ;)...) ddt_toronto 08-09-2005
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Posted by on August 10, 2005, 8:53 pm


Contractors have been getting ripped off for years now by a
conspiracy. The only thing that's generally available to us today are
devices that spin things like carbide-tipped saw blades with big motors.

But what do you think cuts the saw blade itself? That's right, a
laser! Have you seen the kerf on the anti-vibration cut-outs in the
Freud? Astoundingly clean, accurate, lightning fast, with a .5mm kerf.

So, take that new miter saw with the laser sight. All they need to do
is get rid of the motor and the blade and boost the laser power. How
hard can that be? I just did all the design work right there.

* Never needs sharpening!
* Totally quiet... no moving parts!
* No sawdust... just a little puff of smoke.

The laser could even match the color mark of the manufacturer
(e.g. yellow for dewalt, red for milwaukee, green for hitachi)

Well, you can see how this would kill lots of industries overnight, so
they'll never let us have them.

> Hi All,
> I'm a part time paint contractor and I'm thinking of including a
> laminate flooring in my services (I paint mostly condos). I have layed
> a couple of laminate floors myself but I used circular saw for cutting
> the laminate. Now, that would work if I work during regular hours, but
> condo corporations don't allow high noise after 5 p.m. and during the
> weekends, which is the time when I paint mostly. So, one option will be
> to do all the prep work in the evening (carpet removal, vaccuming,
> subfloor laying) and to hire someone to work on the laminate during the
> day. Or, to lay the laminate after hours using some low noise saw. I
> found some good looking Mastercraft mitre hand saw and it looks like
> that's the best option, but I still think that it must be some other
> power saw on the market that is not noisy. I thought to put the power
> saw in the bathroom, but noise is too strong even then. Any idea which
> low noise saw can be used for laminate besides hand saw?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>


Posted by PC Paul on August 10, 2005, 9:08 pm


root@nospam.net wrote:
> Contractors have been getting ripped off for years now by a
> conspiracy. The only thing that's generally available to us today are
> devices that spin things like carbide-tipped saw blades with big
> motors.
>
> But what do you think cuts the saw blade itself? That's right, a
> laser! Have you seen the kerf on the anti-vibration cut-outs in the
> Freud? Astoundingly clean, accurate, lightning fast, with a .5mm
> kerf.
>
> So, take that new miter saw with the laser sight. All they need to do
> is get rid of the motor and the blade and boost the laser power. How
> hard can that be? I just did all the design work right there.
>
> * Never needs sharpening!
> * Totally quiet... no moving parts!
> * No sawdust... just a little puff of smoke.
>
> The laser could even match the color mark of the manufacturer
> (e.g. yellow for dewalt, red for milwaukee, green for hitachi)
>
> Well, you can see how this would kill lots of industries overnight, so
> they'll never let us have them.

I'll bite.

Cutting wood by essentially burning it away is a bit different to cutting
metal... I guess for studwork a bit of scorching wouldn't matter so much,
but for fine furniture? No thanks.

Also, the systems I've looked at in a quick google (up to 450W CO2 Lasers)
can only cut a max of 1" thickness. And a 450W laser is a hefty bit of kit
with a hefty price tag. Although I see EBay has a 3500W laser setup on
Buy-it-now for only $249,995.

Not to mention that saw cutting is only dangerous to people within reach of
the blade plus a bit for kickback. A high powered cutting laser would be a
danger to anyone in a pretty wide range, even if it was initially contained
inside the workshop. Want your dozy neghbour to have one?







Posted by on August 10, 2005, 9:50 pm


Yes, no kickback either! I hadn't thought of that...but I'm sure that
will be on the first brochures when they start churning them out.

Scorching? By the time these things come out, all wood will be MDF
and need to be painted anyway :-)

Seriously, though, the *pulsed* lasers that do LASIK eye correction
DON'T SCORCH (they vaporize the wood before it burns)... they could
make a stopped, flat-bottomed hole in wood that looks like that you
made it with a forstner bit on your drill press but with 0.0001"
accuracy and no brad-point left in the bottom if you add a modicum of
CNC technology.

And, if you wanted to thru-drill, that's another good thing... ZERO
TEAR OUT!

One of the best uses is making those damned square mortise holes --
nobody's every pefected that satisfactorily. And even if you do have
the el-cheapo scorching version of the laser, we don't care a lot
inside a joint.

The price of anything initially (in "prototype" quantities) is quite
costly... but you can go to the dollar store and get a laser pointer
now for a buck... when they first came out they were a hundred bucks!
And don't forget, with a pulsed laser, the power is concentrated in a
short burst resulting in *much* lower wattage.

It might seem dangerous by today's standards, but again, look at the
LASIK lasers... they're a foot from your eyeball pointed directly at
your eyeball!

Brad nailers and Hilti guns have quite a "range" too, and probably
seemed scary when they were first invented.

>> Well, you can see how this would kill lots of industries overnight, so
>> they'll never let us have them.
>
> I'll bite.
>
> Cutting wood by essentially burning it away is a bit different to cutting
> metal... I guess for studwork a bit of scorching wouldn't matter so much,
> but for fine furniture? No thanks.
>
> Also, the systems I've looked at in a quick google (up to 450W CO2 Lasers)
> can only cut a max of 1" thickness. And a 450W laser is a hefty bit of kit
> with a hefty price tag. Although I see EBay has a 3500W laser setup on
> Buy-it-now for only $249,995.
>
> Not to mention that saw cutting is only dangerous to people within reach of
> the blade plus a bit for kickback. A high powered cutting laser would be a
> danger to anyone in a pretty wide range, even if it was initially contained
> inside the workshop. Want your dozy neghbour to have one?
>
>
>
>
>


Posted by Morris Dovey on August 14, 2005, 10:53 am


root@nospam.net (in MOtKe.173577$9A2.125878@edtnps89) said:

| So, take that new miter saw with the laser sight. All they need to
| do is get rid of the motor and the blade and boost the laser power.
| How hard can that be? I just did all the design work right there.
|
| * Never needs sharpening!
| * Totally quiet... no moving parts!
| * No sawdust... just a little puff of smoke.

Hmm - more benefits:

* Self cauterizing... losing a limb doesn't mean you'll bleed to
death.
* Large capacity/range - 3500W model cuts "to infinity and beyond."
* Doubles as lawn mower/tree trimmer/pet groomer/grill starter.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html




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