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Major list of room renovations, what should come first? CompleteNewb 06-28-2008
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Posted by CompleteNewb on June 28, 2008, 10:33 pm
We have a 1929 home w/ plaster walls. We need to CAREFULLY remove the
current hardwood floor, possibly shim or replace some joists, replace the
subfloor, and CAREFULLY reinstall and refinish the hardwood floor. We also
need to re-inforce the fireplace mantel from underneath (it looks like they
just used a wood box to hold it, looking up at it from the basement) with
metal brackets. In the room of the floor being refinished, we need to
replace really old wiring (we were told by a DIY electrician guy we could do
it without tearing the wall out, by fishing new wire around tied to the old
wire as we pull it out, or by fishing the wire around with fishing tools or
whatever), and we might need to blow insulation either from the outside or
the inside. We also need to paint the room.

What order should these things be done? I know the obvious ones, like paint
after the wiring is done, but it seems like some other things could go
either way. The fireplace guy said we need to do the mantel last, but a
floor guy said we need to have the mantel done first, etc. Plus an
insulation guy said do the floor first, but then a different insulation guy
said do the floor afterwards. I've had a really hard time getting any local
professionals to say the same thing, so I've kind of lost my trust in them,
and can also no longer afford to pay people to come here and inspect things
and give me completely different answers than the last guy.

Any thoughts would help and be appreciated.

And by the way, I'm a new homeowner with very little money and no
experience, so I'll probably be posting on here a LOT. So if I break any
rules of posting or whatever, please let me know.

Thanks again.



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Posted by CompleteNewb on June 28, 2008, 10:45 pm
I fogot to add that the windows also need to be replaced, as well as one
door that leads outside. Sorry


> We have a 1929 home w/ plaster walls. We need to CAREFULLY remove the
> current hardwood floor, possibly shim or replace some joists, replace the
> subfloor, and CAREFULLY reinstall and refinish the hardwood floor. We
> also need to re-inforce the fireplace mantel from underneath (it looks
> like they just used a wood box to hold it, looking up at it from the
> basement) with metal brackets. In the room of the floor being refinished,
> we need to replace really old wiring (we were told by a DIY electrician
> guy we could do it without tearing the wall out, by fishing new wire
> around tied to the old wire as we pull it out, or by fishing the wire
> around with fishing tools or whatever), and we might need to blow
> insulation either from the outside or the inside. We also need to paint
> the room.
>
> What order should these things be done? I know the obvious ones, like
> paint after the wiring is done, but it seems like some other things could
> go either way. The fireplace guy said we need to do the mantel last, but
> a floor guy said we need to have the mantel done first, etc. Plus an
> insulation guy said do the floor first, but then a different insulation
> guy said do the floor afterwards. I've had a really hard time getting any
> local professionals to say the same thing, so I've kind of lost my trust
> in them, and can also no longer afford to pay people to come here and
> inspect things and give me completely different answers than the last guy.
>
> Any thoughts would help and be appreciated.
>
> And by the way, I'm a new homeowner with very little money and no
> experience, so I'll probably be posting on here a LOT. So if I break any
> rules of posting or whatever, please let me know.
>
> Thanks again.
>



Posted by SteveB on June 29, 2008, 12:01 am
CompleteNewb wrote:

> I fogot to add that the windows also need to be replaced, as well as one
> door that leads outside. Sorry

3e and 3f


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Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

Posted by HeyBub on June 28, 2008, 10:45 pm
CompleteNewb wrote:
> We have a 1929 home w/ plaster walls. We need to CAREFULLY remove the
> current hardwood floor, possibly shim or replace some joists, replace
> the subfloor, and CAREFULLY reinstall and refinish the hardwood
> floor. We also need to re-inforce the fireplace mantel from
> underneath (it looks like they just used a wood box to hold it,
> looking up at it from the basement) with metal brackets. In the room
> of the floor being refinished, we need to replace really old wiring
> (we were told by a DIY electrician guy we could do it without tearing
> the wall out, by fishing new wire around tied to the old wire as we
> pull it out, or by fishing the wire around with fishing tools or
> whatever), and we might need to blow insulation either from the
> outside or the inside. We also need to paint the room.
> What order should these things be done? I know the obvious ones,
> like paint after the wiring is done, but it seems like some other
> things could go either way. The fireplace guy said we need to do the
> mantel last, but a floor guy said we need to have the mantel done
> first, etc. Plus an insulation guy said do the floor first, but then
> a different insulation guy said do the floor afterwards. I've had a
> really hard time getting any local professionals to say the same
> thing, so I've kind of lost my trust in them, and can also no longer
> afford to pay people to come here and inspect things and give me
> completely different answers than the last guy.
> Any thoughts would help and be appreciated.
>
> And by the way, I'm a new homeowner with very little money and no
> experience, so I'll probably be posting on here a LOT. So if I break
> any rules of posting or whatever, please let me know.
>

1. You may not be able to remove the hardwood floor for exact reuse,
carefully or otherwise. But that may be okay if you can live with a
"distressed" look (I personally think it adds character). There's going to
be at least one board that splinters all to hell when you take it up - do
you have spares? Look for compatible planks before you decide to re-use the
floor. You may end up choosing a laminate veneer.

2. The mantel: I'd say last, unless it's an integral part of the fireplace.
Heck, they make bolt-on mantles that you can stick up anytime.

In sum, I'd say attack in the following order:
1. Structural integrity (leveling floor)
2. Safety concerns (electrical)
3. Cosmetic items (floor, painting, mantle)

Please post your weird or mundane questions; we don't mind. You'll often get
expert advice, and you'll always get some good ideas.



Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 28, 2008, 11:50 pm

> We have a 1929 home w/ plaster walls. We need to CAREFULLY remove the
> current hardwood floor, possibly shim or replace some joists, replace the
> subfloor, and CAREFULLY reinstall and refinish the hardwood floor. We
> also need to re-inforce the fireplace mantel from underneath (it looks
> like they just used a wood box to hold it, looking up at it from the
> basement) with metal brackets. In the room of the floor being refinished,
> we need to replace really old wiring (we were told by a DIY electrician
> guy we could do it without tearing the wall out, by fishing new wire
> around tied to the old wire as we pull it out, or by fishing the wire
> around with fishing tools or whatever), and we might need to blow
> insulation either from the outside or the inside. We also need to paint
> the room.
>
> What order should these things be done? I know the obvious ones, like
> paint after the wiring is done, but it seems like some other things could
> go either way.

The decision comes easier if you know what has to be done. Just stop and
think about the process of the job and how it is affected by other projects.

Consider the wiring. You already know the wires have to be pulled through
or fished in the walls. Logic says that is easier done in an open space
rather than one filled with insulation.

Stuff falls on floors and workmen will be carrying their tools and equipment
over it so do the refinishing towards the end.

In any case, try to get some or al of the insulation done before winter.

As for replacing the joists, it may be easier to sister the old ones with
new. I can't see them from here so I can't give an absolute answer as could
someone looking at them.

You may at times get conflicting information here too, but it is more
information to help you make the final decision. Ask as you go along and
don't worry about mistakes. You'll make them just as we all did so just move
on forward.




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