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McCain pilot record aspasia 05-30-2008
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Posted by on May 30, 2008, 12:22 am

Sure helps to be the son of an Admiral.

http://tinyurl.com/2vhef8

Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to
graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average
student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been
famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been
allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in
Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while
McCain III was being held prisoner of war. McCain III's grandfather
John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa
in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five
U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale's Song, a book about
Annapolis graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain
"learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at
best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it."

McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus
Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by
the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the
Mediterranean. "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula," Timberg
wrote, "he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident
in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at
an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper
stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an
admiral."

McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying
a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

Timberg reported that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" and went
through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at one
thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before the
plane slammed into a clump of trees.

McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he
was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While
seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an
accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain's plane. He escaped from
the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134
sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the
ship.

McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North
Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a
surface-to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both
arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc
Bach Lake near Hanoi.

After being drug from the lake, a mob gathered around McCain, spit on
him, kicked him and stripped him of his clothing. He was bayoneted in
his left foot and his shoulder crushed by a rifle butt. He was then
transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by
his captors who wanted military information, McCain called for an
officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K.,
I'll give you military information if you will take me to the
hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written
by former POW John McCain.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to
terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate.
Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and
confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194,
Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.

When the communist learned that McCain's father was Admiral John S.
McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the
Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government
documents), a medical facility normally unavailable for U.S. POWs.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW McCain's father was of
such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing
circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the
crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory),
the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for
Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two
Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

"McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran
of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs --
the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall
of Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals
out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat.
There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than
7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and
situations where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good
to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that
number of medals for not being shot down."

For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an
overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned
Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his
failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating
his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero
presidential candidate.

http://tinyurl.com/2vhef8

Lots of other interesting stuff on this Web site -- like how he
divorced his faithful, crippled wife in favor of a young heiress.

JOHN MCCAIN was directly responsible for the
DEATHS of
FELLOW AMERICAN PILOTS in VIETNAM
to view interview with Colonel Earl Hopper
click here

The War Secrets Senator John McCain Hides
Former POW Fights Public Access to POW/MIA Files
click here

Why has McCain been Communist Vietnam's best friend in the US
Congress?
click here

Was John McCain Brainwashed by his North Vietnamese Captors to Destroy
this Nation?
click here

McCain Drops F-Bomb
"RAISING MCCAIN"
Is McCain emotionally unstable?
click here

Legendary Temper Could Undermine McCain
click here

Henry Kissinger Takes
Heat on MIAs!
click here

McCain lost five U.S.
Navy aircraft!
click here

Betrayal, deceit, corruption and John McCain
click here





Posted by Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names on May 30, 2008, 6:52 am
On May 30, 12:22=A0am, aspasia wrote:
> Sure helps to be the son of an Admiral.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2vhef8
>
> Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to
> graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. =A0He was a below average
> student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been
> famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been
> allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.
>
> His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in
> Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while
> McCain III was being held prisoner of war. McCain III's grandfather
> John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa
> in 1945.
>
> During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five
> U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.
>
> Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale's Song, a book about
> Annapolis graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain
> "learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at
> best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it."
>
> McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus
> Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by
> the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.
>
> McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the
> Mediterranean. "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula," Timberg
> wrote, "he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident
> in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at
> an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper
> stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an
> admiral."
>
> McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying
> a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.
>
> Timberg reported that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" and went
> through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at one
> thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before the
> plane slammed into a clump of trees.
>
> McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he
> was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While
> seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an
> accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain's plane. He escaped from
> the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134
> sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the
> ship.
>
> McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North
> Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a
> surface-to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both
> arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc
> Bach Lake near Hanoi.
>
> After being drug from the lake, a mob gathered around McCain, spit on
> him, kicked him and stripped him of his clothing. He was bayoneted in
> his left foot and his shoulder crushed by a rifle butt. He was then
> transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.
>
> After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by
> his captors who wanted military information, McCain called for an
> officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K.,
> I'll give you military information if you will take me to the
> hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written
> by former POW John McCain.
>
> "Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to
> terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate.
> Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and
> confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194,
> Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.
>
> When the communist learned that McCain's father was Admiral John S.
> McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the
> Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government
> documents), a medical facility normally unavailable for U.S. POWs.
>
> The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW McCain's father was of
> such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing
> circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the
> crown prince."
>
> For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory),
> the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for
> Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two
> Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.
>
> "McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran
> of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs --
> the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall
> of Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals
> out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat.
> There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than
> 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and
> situations where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good
> to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that
> number of medals for not being shot down."
>
> For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an
> overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned
> Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his
> failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating
> his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.
>
> McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero
> presidential candidate.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2vhef8
>
> Lots of other interesting stuff on this Web site -- like how he
> divorced his faithful, crippled wife in favor of a young heiress.
>
> JOHN MCCAIN was directly responsible for =A0the
> DEATHS of
> FELLOW AMERICAN PILOTS in VIETNAM
> =A0to view interview =A0with Colonel Earl Hopper
> click here
>
> The War Secrets Senator John McCain Hides
> Former POW Fights Public Access to POW/MIA Files
> click here
>
> Why has McCain been Communist Vietnam's best friend in the US
> Congress?
> click here
>
> Was John McCain Brainwashed by his North Vietnamese Captors to Destroy
> this Nation?
> click here
>
> McCain Drops F-Bomb
> "RAISING MCCAIN"
> Is McCain emotionally unstable?
> click here
>
> Legendary Temper Could Undermine McCain
> click here
>
> Henry Kissinger Takes
> Heat on MIAs!
> click here
>
> McCain lost five U.S.
> Navy aircraft!
> click here
>
> Betrayal, deceit, corruption and John McCain
> click here

Facts:

Click here:
www.miafacts.org/mccain.htm



Posted by HeyBub on May 30, 2008, 7:30 am
aspasia wrote:
> Sure helps to be the son of an Admiral.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2vhef8
>
> Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to
> graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average
> student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been
> famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been
> allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.
>

[...]

He's also the grandson of an admiral.

If all you say is true, McCain is not only going to be the next president,
but he's going to heaven.



Posted by AZ Nomad on May 30, 2008, 9:46 am
>aspasia wrote:
>> Sure helps to be the son of an Admiral.
>>
>> http://spamspamspameggsbaconandspam
>>
>> Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to

>[...]

>He's also bla bla bla

Take it to a newsgroup that cares.



Posted by Kurt Ullman on May 30, 2008, 10:04 am

> >aspasia wrote:
> >> Sure helps to be the son of an Admiral.
> >>
> >> http://spamspamspameggsbaconandspam
> >>
> >> Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to
>
> >[...]
>
> >He's also bla bla bla
>
> Take it to a newsgroup that cares.

Take it to a universe that cares...

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