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Metal Buildings, what's your experience? Steve B 04-25-2007
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Posted by Steve B on April 25, 2007, 1:35 pm


I want to get a metal building. I called contractors. For a 1500 sf
building, they want $55,000 to $65,000 for a total job.

I have found building packages that size for around $15,000, and that was
from name brand major suppliers.

I see ads all the time in the paper for metal buildings that someone
cancelled, and they are going to sell this package "really cheap." I tend
to not believe these, or figure they are selling these 300 x 600 buildings
in the paper trying to get in the people who want smaller buildings, and
they switch them to another package. (I have also seen car dealerships that
say their buyer has bought thousands too many of certain cars, and I don't
believe that either.)

Has anyone built or had built an approximately 1500 sf metal building, and
what were the costs? Headaches? Warnings?

My slab will take about 30 yards of concrete, plus some wire and rebar. I
think that would be $7,000 tops with concrete and labor. Flat work is flat
work, and extra on top of that. Any awnings or lean to roofs would be
additional, too.

Bottom line, I think I can do it for half or less than what they want. I
can weld, and have steel erection experience. What do you think?


Steve



Posted by Pete C. on April 25, 2007, 2:47 pm


Steve B wrote:
>
> I want to get a metal building. I called contractors. For a 1500 sf
> building, they want $55,000 to $65,000 for a total job.
>
> I have found building packages that size for around $15,000, and that was
> from name brand major suppliers.
>
> I see ads all the time in the paper for metal buildings that someone
> cancelled, and they are going to sell this package "really cheap." I tend
> to not believe these, or figure they are selling these 300 x 600 buildings
> in the paper trying to get in the people who want smaller buildings, and
> they switch them to another package. (I have also seen car dealerships that
> say their buyer has bought thousands too many of certain cars, and I don't
> believe that either.)
>
> Has anyone built or had built an approximately 1500 sf metal building, and
> what were the costs? Headaches? Warnings?
>
> My slab will take about 30 yards of concrete, plus some wire and rebar. I
> think that would be $7,000 tops with concrete and labor. Flat work is flat
> work, and extra on top of that. Any awnings or lean to roofs would be
> additional, too.
>
> Bottom line, I think I can do it for half or less than what they want. I
> can weld, and have steel erection experience. What do you think?
>
> Steve

Why would you even consider contracting anything beyond the foundation?
It's an excuse to rent a telehandler and have a BBQ with your buddies at
the very least. With the foundation properly completed, a telehandler
and several competent friends I can't see basic structural assembly
taking more than a day.

Posted by Steve B on April 25, 2007, 3:06 pm



> Steve B wrote:
>>
>> I want to get a metal building. I called contractors. For a 1500 sf
>> building, they want $55,000 to $65,000 for a total job.
>>
>> I have found building packages that size for around $15,000, and that was
>> from name brand major suppliers.
>>
>> I see ads all the time in the paper for metal buildings that someone
>> cancelled, and they are going to sell this package "really cheap." I
>> tend
>> to not believe these, or figure they are selling these 300 x 600
>> buildings
>> in the paper trying to get in the people who want smaller buildings, and
>> they switch them to another package. (I have also seen car dealerships
>> that
>> say their buyer has bought thousands too many of certain cars, and I
>> don't
>> believe that either.)
>>
>> Has anyone built or had built an approximately 1500 sf metal building,
>> and
>> what were the costs? Headaches? Warnings?
>>
>> My slab will take about 30 yards of concrete, plus some wire and rebar.
>> I
>> think that would be $7,000 tops with concrete and labor. Flat work is
>> flat
>> work, and extra on top of that. Any awnings or lean to roofs would be
>> additional, too.
>>
>> Bottom line, I think I can do it for half or less than what they want. I
>> can weld, and have steel erection experience. What do you think?
>>
>> Steve
>
> Why would you even consider contracting anything beyond the foundation?
> It's an excuse to rent a telehandler and have a BBQ with your buddies at
> the very least. With the foundation properly completed, a telehandler
> and several competent friends I can't see basic structural assembly
> taking more than a day.

I have some medical "issues" which are beginning to limit me. A couple of
my ships have arrived in port, and things are good financially. STILL, it
was all I could do not to laugh in the guy's face that told me $65,000 for
the building. I was a steel erection contractor, did some fast math in my
head, and said, "That leaves you with more than $30,000 clear profit." He
didn't like that, and started explaining about all the "engineering costs,
permits, blah, blah, blah." He didn't even have the balls to say, "I'm in
business to make money", which is what I would have said.

But still, I'll get out there, find a band of buddies, fire up the barbecue,
provide lots of food and drinks, and Git-r-done. The extra thirty thousand
will more than pay for a car lift, a complete Plasmacam system, flatwork all
around, some leanto awnings for shade, and LOTS of trick tools and gadgets
for the inside of the shop. Probably a few grand left over to go relax at
Mazatlan for a few weeks, too.

Do these people think you can't even operate a calculator?

Steve



Posted by Pete C. on April 25, 2007, 4:50 pm


Steve B wrote:
>
> > Steve B wrote:
> >>
> >> I want to get a metal building. I called contractors. For a 1500 sf
> >> building, they want $55,000 to $65,000 for a total job.
> >>
> >> I have found building packages that size for around $15,000, and that was
> >> from name brand major suppliers.
> >>
> >> I see ads all the time in the paper for metal buildings that someone
> >> cancelled, and they are going to sell this package "really cheap." I
> >> tend
> >> to not believe these, or figure they are selling these 300 x 600
> >> buildings
> >> in the paper trying to get in the people who want smaller buildings, and
> >> they switch them to another package. (I have also seen car dealerships
> >> that
> >> say their buyer has bought thousands too many of certain cars, and I
> >> don't
> >> believe that either.)
> >>
> >> Has anyone built or had built an approximately 1500 sf metal building,
> >> and
> >> what were the costs? Headaches? Warnings?
> >>
> >> My slab will take about 30 yards of concrete, plus some wire and rebar.
> >> I
> >> think that would be $7,000 tops with concrete and labor. Flat work is
> >> flat
> >> work, and extra on top of that. Any awnings or lean to roofs would be
> >> additional, too.
> >>
> >> Bottom line, I think I can do it for half or less than what they want. I
> >> can weld, and have steel erection experience. What do you think?
> >>
> >> Steve
> >
> > Why would you even consider contracting anything beyond the foundation?
> > It's an excuse to rent a telehandler and have a BBQ with your buddies at
> > the very least. With the foundation properly completed, a telehandler
> > and several competent friends I can't see basic structural assembly
> > taking more than a day.
>
> I have some medical "issues" which are beginning to limit me.

Your excuse to remain comfortably in the operators seat of the rented
telehandler :)

> A couple of
> my ships have arrived in port, and things are good financially.

Lucky you, I think my ships capsized in a storm and dumped my containers
of loot in the middle of the ocean.

> STILL, it
> was all I could do not to laugh in the guy's face that told me $65,000 for
> the building. I was a steel erection contractor, did some fast math in my
> head, and said, "That leaves you with more than $30,000 clear profit." He
> didn't like that, and started explaining about all the "engineering costs,
> permits, blah, blah, blah." He didn't even have the balls to say, "I'm in
> business to make money", which is what I would have said.

Unless you're looking for something odd, those buildings should all be
pre engineered so it's just permits and labor. Certainly he's got to
have a profit margin, but he doesn't need to buy a new boat entirely on
your jobs profit.

>
> But still, I'll get out there, find a band of buddies, fire up the barbecue,
> provide lots of food and drinks, and Git-r-done. The extra thirty thousand
> will more than pay for a car lift, a complete Plasmacam system, flatwork all
> around, some leanto awnings for shade, and LOTS of trick tools and gadgets
> for the inside of the shop. Probably a few grand left over to go relax at
> Mazatlan for a few weeks, too.

Exactly, gotta have stuff to put in the new building, or perhaps upgrade
it's HVAC.

>
> Do these people think you can't even operate a calculator?

I expect so, and with recent "graduates" of our "educational" system I
expect they are correct. The latest batch can't even figure out the
mileage their car is getting.

Posted by Steve B on April 25, 2007, 5:22 pm







>> I have some medical "issues" which are beginning to limit me.
>
> Your excuse to remain comfortably in the operators seat of the rented
> telehandler :)

I have run forklifts for a lot of years, and up to a 60 ton crane. Looks
like I could handle some small trusses and whatever else had to be hoisted
up with these.

>> Do these people think you can't even operate a calculator?
>
> I expect so, and with recent "graduates" of our "educational" system I
> expect they are correct. The latest batch can't even figure out the
> mileage their car is getting.

Why do that? Nowadays, the cash register tells you how much change to give,
and if you push a button, there's a mpg indicator on most cars. You DO have
to be able to read the manual, though.

Steve



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