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NEED HELP- 2nd Floor Laundry room floor Jack 10-04-2007
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Posted by Jack on October 4, 2007, 3:44 pm
Need suggestions on flooring for 2nd floor laundry room. It is part
of a big remodel, but we are finishing floors ourselves. In remodel
plumber put a drain in center of the floor (big laundry room, 12x18)
He also laid that thick shower floor membrane over entire floor. Now
we want to finish with ceramic tile. How do you put ceramic tile
over shower pan membrane? As it stands the membrane is just laying
on the plywood floor.
Options:

Pull up membrane, put down cement board, put membrane over cementboard
then put tile over membrane. Obvious problem is, does the thinset
bond to the membrane??

Could just put cement board over membrane, essentially rendering
membrane useless with all the screws through it.

Any other suggestions.. it is too big of room to put down "cement" or
cementlike covering over membrane, then tile on that like you would do
in a showerpan.

will not be attempting to slope floor to drain, too tough on such a
big floor, and water on floor would be very infrequent, it is just a
safety drain, so not worth sloping.


Posted by Big_Jake on October 4, 2007, 5:33 pm
> Need suggestions on flooring for 2nd floor laundry room. It is part
> of a big remodel, but we are finishing floors ourselves. In remodel
> plumber put a drain in center of the floor (big laundry room, 12x18)
> He also laid that thick shower floor membrane over entire floor. Now
> we want to finish with ceramic tile. How do you put ceramic tile
> over shower pan membrane? As it stands the membrane is just laying
> on the plywood floor.
> Options:
>
> Pull up membrane, put down cement board, put membrane over cementboard
> then put tile over membrane. Obvious problem is, does the thinset
> bond to the membrane??
>
> Could just put cement board over membrane, essentially rendering
> membrane useless with all the screws through it.
>
> Any other suggestions.. it is too big of room to put down "cement" or
> cementlike covering over membrane, then tile on that like you would do
> in a showerpan.
>
> will not be attempting to slope floor to drain, too tough on such a
> big floor, and water on floor would be very infrequent, it is just a
> safety drain, so not worth sloping.

If you aren't planning on sloping the floor to the drain, then you
probably shouldn't have even bothered putting the drain in. The
plumber started the work, and you should finish by putting down a
mortar base, sloped to the drain, and tiling over that. It would be
less work than pulling the membrane, putting cement board down,
resetting the membrane, etc.

JK


Posted by HeyBub on October 5, 2007, 9:04 am
Jack wrote:
> Need suggestions on flooring for 2nd floor laundry room. It is part
> of a big remodel, but we are finishing floors ourselves. In remodel
> plumber put a drain in center of the floor (big laundry room, 12x18)
> He also laid that thick shower floor membrane over entire floor. Now
> we want to finish with ceramic tile. How do you put ceramic tile
> over shower pan membrane? As it stands the membrane is just laying
> on the plywood floor.
> Options:

Think weight. Then think linoleum.



Posted by Jack on October 5, 2007, 9:26 am
> Jack wrote:
> > Need suggestions on flooring for 2nd floor laundry room. It is part
> > of a big remodel, but we are finishing floors ourselves. In remodel
> > plumber put a drain in center of the floor (big laundry room, 12x18)
> > He also laid that thick shower floor membrane over entire floor. Now
> > we want to finish with ceramic tile. How do you put ceramic tile
> > over shower pan membrane? As it stands the membrane is just laying
> > on the plywood floor.
> > Options:
>
> Think weight. Then think linoleum.

I am just curious, why is weight a problem? Will a properly framed
house have not problem suporting the weight of a 2nd story tile floor?


Posted by RicodJour on October 5, 2007, 9:47 am
> Need suggestions on flooring for 2nd floor laundry room. It is part
> of a big remodel, but we are finishing floors ourselves. In remodel
> plumber put a drain in center of the floor (big laundry room, 12x18)
> He also laid that thick shower floor membrane over entire floor. Now
> we want to finish with ceramic tile. How do you put ceramic tile
> over shower pan membrane? As it stands the membrane is just laying
> on the plywood floor.
> Options:
>
> Pull up membrane, put down cement board, put membrane over cementboard
> then put tile over membrane. Obvious problem is, does the thinset
> bond to the membrane??
>
> Could just put cement board over membrane, essentially rendering
> membrane useless with all the screws through it.
>
> Any other suggestions.. it is too big of room to put down "cement" or
> cementlike covering over membrane, then tile on that like you would do
> in a showerpan.
>
> will not be attempting to slope floor to drain, too tough on such a
> big floor, and water on floor would be very infrequent, it is just a
> safety drain, so not worth sloping.

If the room is too big to slope the floor (?) membrane should not have
been laid down on the entire floor. The immediate area around the
plumbing and machines should have been waterproofed. A better way of
doing it would have been to have the washer sit in a precast receptor
- or in a recessed waterproofed area of the floor - that was plumbed
to the drain. Then the situation is no different than a bathroom or
any other sink.

R


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