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Need help with wiring - John Deere 655 Chuck Jurgens 08-02-2005
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Posted by Chuck Jurgens on August 2, 2005, 12:26 am


I have a JD 655 compact tractor/mower with a 3 cyl diesel engine. The
starter went bad and I took it to a guy who fixes starters and alternators.
He removed it from the tractor, took it apart and determined that he
couldn't fix it.

I took it to another guy who fixed it. Now I need to re-install it on the
tractor. No problem - except for one thing. Since the first mechanic
removed it from the tractor, I didn't notice where all of the wires connect.
Actually, I know where they all go except ONE. There is the battery cable
and generator cable that connect to one side of the solenoid and the cable
from the ignition switch to the solenoid.

The remaining wire runs over to what appears to be a fuel shutoff. I THINK
it connects to the hot terminal on the solenoid but when I connect it, the
fuel shutoff engages - even when the ignition is off. Obviously, this would
drain the battery.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to the purpose of this wire AND where it
connects?

Thanks.

Chuck




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Posted by Wes Stewart on August 1, 2005, 7:37 pm


On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 00:26:29 GMT, "Chuck Jurgens"

>I have a JD 655 compact tractor/mower with a 3 cyl diesel engine. The
>starter went bad and I took it to a guy who fixes starters and alternators.
>He removed it from the tractor, took it apart and determined that he
>couldn't fix it.
>
>I took it to another guy who fixed it. Now I need to re-install it on the
>tractor. No problem - except for one thing. Since the first mechanic
>removed it from the tractor, I didn't notice where all of the wires connect.
>Actually, I know where they all go except ONE. There is the battery cable
>and generator cable that connect to one side of the solenoid and the cable
>from the ignition switch to the solenoid.
>
>The remaining wire runs over to what appears to be a fuel shutoff. I THINK
>it connects to the hot terminal on the solenoid but when I connect it, the
>fuel shutoff engages - even when the ignition is off. Obviously, this would
>drain the battery.

I'm really guessing here.

Connected that way I believe that if you ever started this thing it
would drain the fuel tank too. [g]

>
>Does anyone have any suggestions as to the purpose of this wire AND where it
>connects?

The purpose is to shut the fuel off so the engine quits running.

There must be another contact someplace from the "ignition" switch to
the fuel solenoid -or- from an oil pressure switch.

But what do I know, why not go to Wally World and buy a manual?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?dest=9999999997&product_id=1484287&sourceid=0100000030660805302498



Posted by Duane Bozarth on August 2, 2005, 9:49 am


Chuck Jurgens wrote:
>
> I have a JD 655 compact tractor/mower with a 3 cyl diesel engine. The
> starter went bad and I took it to a guy who fixes starters and alternators.
> He removed it from the tractor, took it apart and determined that he
> couldn't fix it.
>
> I took it to another guy who fixed it. Now I need to re-install it on the
> tractor. No problem - except for one thing. Since the first mechanic
> removed it from the tractor, I didn't notice where all of the wires connect.
> Actually, I know where they all go except ONE. There is the battery cable
> and generator cable that connect to one side of the solenoid and the cable
> from the ignition switch to the solenoid.
>
> The remaining wire runs over to what appears to be a fuel shutoff. I THINK
> it connects to the hot terminal on the solenoid but when I connect it, the
> fuel shutoff engages - even when the ignition is off. Obviously, this would
> drain the battery.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to the purpose of this wire AND where it
> connects?

It's the fuel supply solenoid...on the 955 (which actually now I look
the service manual covers the 655 thru 955) it connects on a side
terminal on the starter...as I recall, it's on the back side where it's
a real pita to get to when the starter is mounted so you may not be able
to see it easily.

I assume this is the white?

Also, I've never seen a JD dealer that wouldn't answer such a question
or supply a copy of the wiring diagram simply for the
asking--particularly if one uses them for parts, etc., on a at least a
reasonably regular basis--it's a reason to give them your business.


Posted by Chuck Jurgens on August 2, 2005, 5:42 pm


Thanks Duane. That's exactly where it goes!

Chuck

> Chuck Jurgens wrote:
> >
> > I have a JD 655 compact tractor/mower with a 3 cyl diesel engine. The
> > starter went bad and I took it to a guy who fixes starters and
alternators.
> > He removed it from the tractor, took it apart and determined that he
> > couldn't fix it.
> >
> > I took it to another guy who fixed it. Now I need to re-install it on
the
> > tractor. No problem - except for one thing. Since the first mechanic
> > removed it from the tractor, I didn't notice where all of the wires
connect.
> > Actually, I know where they all go except ONE. There is the battery
cable
> > and generator cable that connect to one side of the solenoid and the
cable
> > from the ignition switch to the solenoid.
> >
> > The remaining wire runs over to what appears to be a fuel shutoff. I
THINK
> > it connects to the hot terminal on the solenoid but when I connect it,
the
> > fuel shutoff engages - even when the ignition is off. Obviously, this
would
> > drain the battery.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to the purpose of this wire AND
where it
> > connects?
>
> It's the fuel supply solenoid...on the 955 (which actually now I look
> the service manual covers the 655 thru 955) it connects on a side
> terminal on the starter...as I recall, it's on the back side where it's
> a real pita to get to when the starter is mounted so you may not be able
> to see it easily.
>
> I assume this is the white?
>
> Also, I've never seen a JD dealer that wouldn't answer such a question
> or supply a copy of the wiring diagram simply for the
> asking--particularly if one uses them for parts, etc., on a at least a
> reasonably regular basis--it's a reason to give them your business.




Posted by Duane Bozarth on August 2, 2005, 1:01 pm


Chuck Jurgens wrote:
>
> Thanks Duane. That's exactly where it goes!
>
> Chuck
>
Great...

The guys in the shop at JD <do> know who you are, though, right???? :)


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