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Need to connect 1/4" copper tubing to garden hose. Ken Knecht 08-23-2006
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Posted by Big Al on August 24, 2006, 1:44 am

> Ken Knecht wrote:
> > I am trying to connect the water supply to my evaporative cooler via a
> > garden hose, then a 1/4" copper line to the cooler. If I run copper all
> > the way it plugs up in my hard water after a year or so. But connection
> > between the hose and copper has me stumped.
> >
> > I wrapped the copper line with duct tape until it would just fit inside
> > the garden hose. Then I used two hose clamps to hold it. A few hours
> > later evidently the water pressure in the hose, though only on slightly,
> > had pushed out the tape-wrapped tubing. I next tried winding some wire
> > around the tubing and hose and wrapping it with waterproof tape. I don't
> > expect it to work.
> >
> > I need a way to go from 1/4" copper tubing to male garden hose. I asked
> > about it in Lowes this mrning when I bought the hose. They didn't know
of
> > anything.
> >
> > So this seems like this project will be a failure unless I can come up
> > with something. That water pressure is relentless. I will either need to
> > use waterproof cement or come up with a series of connectors. I thought
> > about silicon caulk squeezed in at the hose end around the copper
> > (retaining the wrapped duct tape and hose clamps) but I don't think it
> > will work either.
> >
> > Any suggestions please?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
>
> First: you should not be using copper pipe. Use
> the 1/4" plastic, it will use the same fitting and
> you won't have any hard water build up.
>
> Second: The simplest solution is to buy a faucet
> with a 1/4" compression connector on the side
> between the inlet and the valve.

Or buy a hose to 1/4" adapter for plastic drip irrigation pipe.

Al



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Posted by George E. Cawthon on August 24, 2006, 2:38 am
Big Al wrote:
>> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>> I am trying to connect the water supply to my evaporative cooler via a
>>> garden hose, then a 1/4" copper line to the cooler. If I run copper all
>>> the way it plugs up in my hard water after a year or so. But connection
>>> between the hose and copper has me stumped.
>>>
>>> I wrapped the copper line with duct tape until it would just fit inside
>>> the garden hose. Then I used two hose clamps to hold it. A few hours
>>> later evidently the water pressure in the hose, though only on slightly,
>>> had pushed out the tape-wrapped tubing. I next tried winding some wire
>>> around the tubing and hose and wrapping it with waterproof tape. I don't
>>> expect it to work.
>>>
>>> I need a way to go from 1/4" copper tubing to male garden hose. I asked
>>> about it in Lowes this mrning when I bought the hose. They didn't know
> of
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> So this seems like this project will be a failure unless I can come up
>>> with something. That water pressure is relentless. I will either need to
>>> use waterproof cement or come up with a series of connectors. I thought
>>> about silicon caulk squeezed in at the hose end around the copper
>>> (retaining the wrapped duct tape and hose clamps) but I don't think it
>>> will work either.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions please?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>>
>> First: you should not be using copper pipe. Use
>> the 1/4" plastic, it will use the same fitting and
>> you won't have any hard water build up.
>>
>> Second: The simplest solution is to buy a faucet
>> with a 1/4" compression connector on the side
>> between the inlet and the valve.
>
> Or buy a hose to 1/4" adapter for plastic drip irrigation pipe.
>
> Al
>
>
I don't believe plastic drip pipe (tubing) would
be suitable for the application. If the tubing
splits in a garden, there would be no problem but
if it splits near a window, or whatever, it could
result in a flood. Would you use plastic drip
pipe for indoor plumbing?

Posted by Charlie Morgan on August 24, 2006, 6:37 am
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:38:55 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"

>Big Al wrote:
>>> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>>> I am trying to connect the water supply to my evaporative cooler via a
>>>> garden hose, then a 1/4" copper line to the cooler. If I run copper all
>>>> the way it plugs up in my hard water after a year or so. But connection
>>>> between the hose and copper has me stumped.
>>>>
>>>> I wrapped the copper line with duct tape until it would just fit inside
>>>> the garden hose. Then I used two hose clamps to hold it. A few hours
>>>> later evidently the water pressure in the hose, though only on slightly,
>>>> had pushed out the tape-wrapped tubing. I next tried winding some wire
>>>> around the tubing and hose and wrapping it with waterproof tape. I don't
>>>> expect it to work.
>>>>
>>>> I need a way to go from 1/4" copper tubing to male garden hose. I asked
>>>> about it in Lowes this mrning when I bought the hose. They didn't know
>> of
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>> So this seems like this project will be a failure unless I can come up
>>>> with something. That water pressure is relentless. I will either need to
>>>> use waterproof cement or come up with a series of connectors. I thought
>>>> about silicon caulk squeezed in at the hose end around the copper
>>>> (retaining the wrapped duct tape and hose clamps) but I don't think it
>>>> will work either.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions please?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>> First: you should not be using copper pipe. Use
>>> the 1/4" plastic, it will use the same fitting and
>>> you won't have any hard water build up.
>>>
>>> Second: The simplest solution is to buy a faucet
>>> with a 1/4" compression connector on the side
>>> between the inlet and the valve.
>>
>> Or buy a hose to 1/4" adapter for plastic drip irrigation pipe.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>I don't believe plastic drip pipe (tubing) would
>be suitable for the application. If the tubing
>splits in a garden, there would be no problem but
>if it splits near a window, or whatever, it could
>result in a flood. Would you use plastic drip
>pipe for indoor plumbing?

It sounds like he only said to use the adapter, not the drip pipe itself.

CWM

Posted by George E. Cawthon on August 24, 2006, 4:28 pm
Charlie Morgan wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:38:55 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
>
>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>>>> I am trying to connect the water supply to my evaporative cooler via a
>>>>> garden hose, then a 1/4" copper line to the cooler. If I run copper all
>>>>> the way it plugs up in my hard water after a year or so. But connection
>>>>> between the hose and copper has me stumped.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wrapped the copper line with duct tape until it would just fit inside
>>>>> the garden hose. Then I used two hose clamps to hold it. A few hours
>>>>> later evidently the water pressure in the hose, though only on slightly,
>>>>> had pushed out the tape-wrapped tubing. I next tried winding some wire
>>>>> around the tubing and hose and wrapping it with waterproof tape. I don't
>>>>> expect it to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need a way to go from 1/4" copper tubing to male garden hose. I asked
>>>>> about it in Lowes this mrning when I bought the hose. They didn't know
>>> of
>>>>> anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> So this seems like this project will be a failure unless I can come up
>>>>> with something. That water pressure is relentless. I will either need to
>>>>> use waterproof cement or come up with a series of connectors. I thought
>>>>> about silicon caulk squeezed in at the hose end around the copper
>>>>> (retaining the wrapped duct tape and hose clamps) but I don't think it
>>>>> will work either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions please?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> First: you should not be using copper pipe. Use
>>>> the 1/4" plastic, it will use the same fitting and
>>>> you won't have any hard water build up.
>>>>
>>>> Second: The simplest solution is to buy a faucet
>>>> with a 1/4" compression connector on the side
>>>> between the inlet and the valve.
>>> Or buy a hose to 1/4" adapter for plastic drip irrigation pipe.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
>> I don't believe plastic drip pipe (tubing) would
>> be suitable for the application. If the tubing
>> splits in a garden, there would be no problem but
>> if it splits near a window, or whatever, it could
>> result in a flood. Would you use plastic drip
>> pipe for indoor plumbing?
>
> It sounds like he only said to use the adapter, not the drip pipe itself.
>
> CWM

Ahh, you may be right. Don't think a drip pipe
adapter (not sure how those work) would allow
properly connecting 1/4" copper or polypropylene
tubing that use compression and ferrules for
connections.

Posted by Charlie Morgan on August 24, 2006, 5:12 pm
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:28:31 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"

>Charlie Morgan wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:38:55 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
>>
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>>>>> I am trying to connect the water supply to my evaporative cooler via a
>>>>>> garden hose, then a 1/4" copper line to the cooler. If I run copper all
>>>>>> the way it plugs up in my hard water after a year or so. But connection
>>>>>> between the hose and copper has me stumped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrapped the copper line with duct tape until it would just fit inside
>>>>>> the garden hose. Then I used two hose clamps to hold it. A few hours
>>>>>> later evidently the water pressure in the hose, though only on slightly,
>>>>>> had pushed out the tape-wrapped tubing. I next tried winding some wire
>>>>>> around the tubing and hose and wrapping it with waterproof tape. I don't
>>>>>> expect it to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need a way to go from 1/4" copper tubing to male garden hose. I asked
>>>>>> about it in Lowes this mrning when I bought the hose. They didn't know
>>>> of
>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So this seems like this project will be a failure unless I can come up
>>>>>> with something. That water pressure is relentless. I will either need to
>>>>>> use waterproof cement or come up with a series of connectors. I thought
>>>>>> about silicon caulk squeezed in at the hose end around the copper
>>>>>> (retaining the wrapped duct tape and hose clamps) but I don't think it
>>>>>> will work either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> First: you should not be using copper pipe. Use
>>>>> the 1/4" plastic, it will use the same fitting and
>>>>> you won't have any hard water build up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second: The simplest solution is to buy a faucet
>>>>> with a 1/4" compression connector on the side
>>>>> between the inlet and the valve.
>>>> Or buy a hose to 1/4" adapter for plastic drip irrigation pipe.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I don't believe plastic drip pipe (tubing) would
>>> be suitable for the application. If the tubing
>>> splits in a garden, there would be no problem but
>>> if it splits near a window, or whatever, it could
>>> result in a flood. Would you use plastic drip
>>> pipe for indoor plumbing?
>>
>> It sounds like he only said to use the adapter, not the drip pipe itself.
>>
>> CWM
>
>Ahh, you may be right. Don't think a drip pipe
>adapter (not sure how those work) would allow
>properly connecting 1/4" copper or polypropylene
>tubing that use compression and ferrules for
>connections.

I think it's somewhat similar, but might not be an exact match without some
creativity. It could probably be made to work though. The exact right adapters
exist if they can be sourced.

CWM

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