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Need to replace wax ring? MiamiCuse 11-26-2006
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Posted by on November 26, 2006, 6:53 pm



Toller wrote:
> > Last time I replaced the toilet, after I installed the new one, I caulked
> > around the base but in the front I left a little hole. The thought was if
> > it leaks from there it will be my clue that the wax ring seal is broken.
> >
> > Well it happened. This afternoon I noticed my floor tile is a bit wet and
> > it traces it to that toilet hole. If I mop up the water after half an
> > hour I get more water leak from there.
> >
> > Only thing is to take the toilet apart, removing the tank, mop up all the
> > junk put in a new wax ring is a three hour project. I am now packing up
> > for a business trip and no time to deal with this at the moment. Should I
> > bite the bullet and do it, or can I "plug" up that hole and deal with it
> > next weekend and tell eveyone to not flush this toilet in the mean time?
> >
> Maybe my toilets are different from yours, but the ring is to give an air
> tight connection and prevent sewer gas from getting out. It should flush
> normally without leaking even if you left the wax ring out. No?

I don't have a toilet apart here to look at, but from what I remember,
I would think it would leak quite badly with no seal at all. The horn
of the bottom of the toilet really doesn't even extend much, if at all,
into the flange below, does it? I thought it sort of sits directly
above it and the wax ring closes off the space. Plus, I've seen lots
of home inspectors identify wet or rot around toilets and say that it's
likely the wax ring.




>
> Last toilet I set with a plastic contraption with rubber seals rather than
> was; figured it would be so much easier next time if I didn't have to clean
> the old wax up. Working so far.


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Posted by buffalobill on November 26, 2006, 6:53 pm


the floor gets wet if there is a blockage in the sewer. normally the
toilet happily flushes its waste from its bottom lip into the flange's
mouth. if you use a small wet vac your job will be so much faster at
wax time. also see new no-wax seal at:
www.fluidmaster.com


MiamiCuse wrote:
> Last time I replaced the toilet, after I installed the new one, I caulked
> around the base but in the front I left a little hole. The thought was if
> it leaks from there it will be my clue that the wax ring seal is broken.
>
> Well it happened. This afternoon I noticed my floor tile is a bit wet and
> it traces it to that toilet hole. If I mop up the water after half an hour
> I get more water leak from there.
>
> Only thing is to take the toilet apart, removing the tank, mop up all the
> junk put in a new wax ring is a three hour project. I am now packing up for
> a business trip and no time to deal with this at the moment. Should I bite
> the bullet and do it, or can I "plug" up that hole and deal with it next
> weekend and tell eveyone to not flush this toilet in the mean time?
>
> Thanks,
>
> MC


Posted by Bob F on November 26, 2006, 7:20 pm



> Last time I replaced the toilet, after I installed the new one, I caulked
> around the base but in the front I left a little hole. The thought was if
> it leaks from there it will be my clue that the wax ring seal is broken.
>
> Well it happened. This afternoon I noticed my floor tile is a bit wet and
> it traces it to that toilet hole. If I mop up the water after half an
hour
> I get more water leak from there.
>
> Only thing is to take the toilet apart, removing the tank, mop up all the
> junk put in a new wax ring is a three hour project. I am now packing up
for
> a business trip and no time to deal with this at the moment. Should I
bite
> the bullet and do it, or can I "plug" up that hole and deal with it next
> weekend and tell eveyone to not flush this toilet in the mean time?

Why would you remove the tank? Just disconnect the water supply,
unbolt the toilet from the floor, and lift it off. Clean off the old wax,
and install it with a new ring.

Bob



Posted by MiamiCuse on November 26, 2006, 7:56 pm



>
>> Last time I replaced the toilet, after I installed the new one, I caulked
>> around the base but in the front I left a little hole. The thought was
>> if
>> it leaks from there it will be my clue that the wax ring seal is broken.
>>
>> Well it happened. This afternoon I noticed my floor tile is a bit wet
>> and
>> it traces it to that toilet hole. If I mop up the water after half an
> hour
>> I get more water leak from there.
>>
>> Only thing is to take the toilet apart, removing the tank, mop up all the
>> junk put in a new wax ring is a three hour project. I am now packing up
> for
>> a business trip and no time to deal with this at the moment. Should I
> bite
>> the bullet and do it, or can I "plug" up that hole and deal with it next
>> weekend and tell eveyone to not flush this toilet in the mean time?
>
> Why would you remove the tank? Just disconnect the water supply,
> unbolt the toilet from the floor, and lift it off. Clean off the old wax,
> and install it with a new ring.
>
> Bob
>
>

I need to remove the tank because I am skinny at 125 pounds. The toilet
with tank is probably about 80 pounds and I cannot really hold the whole
thing steady for too long. Also if I turn the toilet upside down to put in
the new wax ring, wouldn't the tank be in the way and I am not sure there is
enough room between the glass shower door and the cabinet to rotate the
toilet around with the tank in place.



Posted by on November 26, 2006, 11:27 pm



>
>>
(snip)
or
>>> a business trip and no time to deal with this at the moment. Should I
>> bite
>>> the bullet and do it, or can I "plug" up that hole and deal with it next
>>> weekend and tell eveyone to not flush this toilet in the mean time?
>>
>> Why would you remove the tank? Just disconnect the water supply,
>> unbolt the toilet from the floor, and lift it off. Clean off the old wax,
>> and install it with a new ring.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>
> I need to remove the tank because I am skinny at 125 pounds. The toilet
> with tank is probably about 80 pounds and I cannot really hold the whole
> thing steady for too long. Also if I turn the toilet upside down to put
> in the new wax ring, wouldn't the tank be in the way and I am not sure
> there is enough room between the glass shower door and the cabinet to
> rotate the toilet around with the tank in place.
I think we may have tripped over the problem here- every toilet install I
have ever seen or done, they put the ring on the floor, and dropped the
toilet down on it. I suspect you are moving the ring, or maybe catching the
ring on the mounting bolt, as you manuver it in place.

Yeah, whenever possible, most people do not split the tank and base. A PITA
to get back together, and hard to get the correct torque on those bolts, in
tight places.

aem sends...



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