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Neutralize Muriatic acid Oren 04-20-2008
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Posted by Gary Dyrkacz. on April 22, 2008, 7:48 pm
wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:59:05 -0700 (PDT), ransley
>
>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>> >Oren wrote:
>>>
>>> >>My acid wash will already be diluted (1 part acid to 4-6 parts water).
>>>
>>> >Be sure to add the acid TO the water, not water to acid.  Wrong way =
>>> >violent bubbling/splashing and is dangerous.
>>>
>>> Reminds me of highschool chemistry class.
>>
>>Muriatic does not react to water violently, so I would take the
>>previous posters Bull Shit here to bull shit, Muriatic FUMES,
>>Muriatic eats metal pipe. It wont react to added water as sulfuric
>>will, I use Muriatic, maybe even tomorrow AM to clean stone.
>
>
>Muriatic acid can splatter, emit caustic fumes, corrode metal, cause
>skin burns and blindness. It contains HCl, one of the strongest
>acids. If diluted properly (adding acid TO the water), it becomes
>less hazardous. Not a wise idea to have a bottle of it laying around.

The rule of acid to water is a good one for the non chemist, and
usually for chemists as well. It is a general rule of thumb that is
just easy to remember and follow. If you understand the
characteristics of what you are working with, then you can bend the
rules, but with the proper techniques and understanding. The unwise
should never add water to acid. It is clear from most of the posts,
that the general rule of acid to water should be followed by just
about eveyone responding to this post.

All concentrated mineral acids develop heat when mixed with water. The
problem is that some acids, like concentrated sulfuric acid are prone
to a highly localized and large release of heat of mixing. The
dissolution especially in this case becomes violent, with subsequent
violant spattering of acid due to localized steam generation.

Do chemist ever do the reverse with acids? Sure, but not before
carefully thinking about how they will control the mixing conditions
and adjusting for the consequences.

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Posted by Norminn on April 22, 2008, 7:13 am
ransley wrote:

>
>
>>dadiOH wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Oren wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>My acid wash will already be diluted (1 part acid to 4-6 parts water).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Be sure to add the acid TO the water, not water to acid. Wrong way =
>>>violent bubbling/splashing and is dangerous.
>>>
>>>
>>Reminds me of highschool chemistry class.
>>
>>
>
>Muriatic does not react to water violently, so I would take the
>previous posters Bull Shit here to bull shit, Muriatic FUMES,
>Muriatic eats metal pipe. It wont react to added water as sulfuric
>will, I use Muriatic, maybe even tomorrow AM to clean stone.
>
>
It does a number on concrete -

Posted by Jennifer on April 22, 2008, 2:47 pm
ransley wrote:

> > dadiOH wrote:
> > >Oren wrote:
> >
> > >>My acid wash will already be diluted (1 part acid to 4-6 parts water).
> >
> > >Be sure to add the acid TO the water, not water to acid. Wrong way =
> > >violent bubbling/splashing and is dangerous.
> >
> > Reminds me of highschool chemistry class.
>
> Muriatic does not react to water violently, so I would take the
> previous posters Bull Shit here to bull shit, Muriatic FUMES,
> Muriatic eats metal pipe. It wont react to added water as sulfuric
> will, I use Muriatic, maybe even tomorrow AM to clean stone.

I strongly disagree with your recommendation to ignore basic acid safe
handling. Adding acid to water is always safer because the acid is safely
dilluted as it is poured. Adding water to acid (especially a granular form of
an acid such as sodium bisulfate but also for liquid/aqueous acid solution)
results in working with a very strong solution, which isn't something you want
to mess around with or risk splashing.

Yes it is true that pure water added to muriatic acid (which contains water by
definition) will not cause a reaction in itself, but that is beside the point
made for safe handling. Treat muriatic/hydrocholoric acid (and any strong
acid) with a great deal of respect. I would strongly recommend wearing acid
safe gloves and a mask. One little splash of a drop can do a lot of permanent
and painful damage to an eye, to say nothing of other body parts.





Posted by ransley on April 22, 2008, 3:56 pm
> ransley wrote:
> > > dadiOH wrote:
> > > >Oren wrote:
>
> > > >>My acid wash will already be diluted (1 part acid to 4-6 parts water=
).
>
> > > >Be sure to add the acid TO the water, not water to acid. =A0Wrong way=
=3D
> > > >violent bubbling/splashing and is dangerous.
>
> > > Reminds me of highschool chemistry class.
>
> > Muriatic does not react to water violently, so I would take the
> > previous posters Bull Shit here to bull shit, Muriatic FUMES,
> > Muriatic eats metal pipe. It wont react to added water as sulfuric
> > will, I use Muriatic, maybe even tomorrow AM to clean stone.
>
> I strongly disagree with your recommendation to ignore basic acid safe
> handling. =A0Adding acid to water is always safer because the acid is safe=
ly
> dilluted as it is poured. =A0Adding water to acid (especially a granular f=
orm of
> an acid such as sodium bisulfate but also for liquid/aqueous acid solution=
)
> results in working with a very strong solution, which isn't something you =
want
> to mess around with or risk splashing.
>
> Yes it is true that pure water added to muriatic acid (which contains wate=
r by
> definition) will not cause a reaction in itself, but that is beside the po=
int
> made for safe handling. =A0Treat muriatic/hydrocholoric acid (and any stro=
ng
> acid) with a great deal of respect. =A0I would strongly recommend wearing =
acid
> safe gloves and a mask. =A0One little splash of a drop can do a lot of per=
manent
> and painful damage to an eye, to say nothing of other body parts.- Hide qu=
oted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Body parts, Ive had Muriatic drip over my hands for a day with no
injurie, eyes are different , get it Real/

Posted by Jennifer on April 22, 2008, 5:31 pm


ransley wrote:

> > ransley wrote:
> > > > dadiOH wrote:
> > > > >Oren wrote:
> >
> > > > >>My acid wash will already be diluted (1 part acid to 4-6 parts water).
> >
> > > > >Be sure to add the acid TO the water, not water to acid. Wrong way =
> > > > >violent bubbling/splashing and is dangerous.
> >
> > > > Reminds me of highschool chemistry class.
> >
> > > Muriatic does not react to water violently, so I would take the
> > > previous posters Bull Shit here to bull shit, Muriatic FUMES,
> > > Muriatic eats metal pipe. It wont react to added water as sulfuric
> > > will, I use Muriatic, maybe even tomorrow AM to clean stone.
> >
> > I strongly disagree with your recommendation to ignore basic acid safe
> > handling. Adding acid to water is always safer because the acid is safely
> > dilluted as it is poured. Adding water to acid (especially a granular form
of
> > an acid such as sodium bisulfate but also for liquid/aqueous acid solution)
> > results in working with a very strong solution, which isn't something you
want
> > to mess around with or risk splashing.
> >
> > Yes it is true that pure water added to muriatic acid (which contains water
by
> > definition) will not cause a reaction in itself, but that is beside the point
> > made for safe handling. Treat muriatic/hydrocholoric acid (and any strong
> > acid) with a great deal of respect. I would strongly recommend wearing acid
> > safe gloves and a mask. One little splash of a drop can do a lot of
permanent
> > and painful damage to an eye, to say nothing of other body parts.- Hide
quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Body parts, Ive had Muriatic drip over my hands for a day with no
> injurie, eyes are different , get it Real/

If that is the case than you are working with fairly weak HCl solution!! What
its strength
in moles?

The HCl I work with regularly would put dissolve skin fairly quickly. I stand
by all of my
comments regarding acid handling safety. For many people, swimming pools is the
first time
they encounter such chemicals, and there are some things that are best not
learned first
hand.



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