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New Wire From Recep to Breaker John Ross 10-10-2007
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Posted by John Ross on October 10, 2007, 8:52 am
The saga of my trying to get a few receptacles grounded continues....

Talked to another electrician, who wants to just run a new Romex cable
(this is 1960 house with the old Romex with no ground in it) from the
specific receptacle back to the panel (he hasn't come out yet to look
at the place, but thinks he can run it the same place as original--
well, not the entire original--just up wall to attic and then to
panel).

This sounds a lot cleaner than drilling holes in floor just for a
ground wire etc. However, you guys have gotten me up to speed on the
grounding issue, but I am clueless for something like this.

Is this considered legitimate? I assume you would have to connect the
old wires together somehow in the receptacle so the other receptacles
on the circuit are not cut off?

The other thing that I just thought of was when it gets back to the
breaker, you will still have the old wiring connected to that breaker.
So how would he end up with both connected to that breaker? Is there a
code correct way to do this?

For the record, I almost gave up today after talking to 4 electricians
who said some off the wall things (I'll tell you that later---you
won''t believe it and I don't want this thread to go on a tangent.
Suffice to say, this guy *sounded* like he had a clue, but then again
I got duped before and you guys came to the rescue! :)
--
John


Posted by beecrofter on October 10, 2007, 8:58 am
After reading this thread I am glad to not be an electrician.:)


Posted by HeyBub on October 10, 2007, 10:59 am
beecrofter wrote:
> After reading this thread I am glad to not be an electrician.:)

I dunno. With folks like this, seems an electrician could make bags of
money.



Posted by Doug Miller on October 10, 2007, 9:02 am
>The saga of my trying to get a few receptacles grounded continues....
>
>Talked to another electrician, who wants to just run a new Romex cable
>(this is 1960 house with the old Romex with no ground in it) from the
>specific receptacle back to the panel (he hasn't come out yet to look
>at the place, but thinks he can run it the same place as original--
>well, not the entire original--just up wall to attic and then to
>panel).

Probably, he's intending to run the cable to the *first* receptacle on the
circuit.
>
>This sounds a lot cleaner than drilling holes in floor just for a
>ground wire etc. However, you guys have gotten me up to speed on the
>grounding issue, but I am clueless for something like this.
>
>Is this considered legitimate?

Sure. Why wouldn't it be?

>I assume you would have to connect the
>old wires together somehow in the receptacle so the other receptacles
>on the circuit are not cut off?

Same way they're connected now.
>
>The other thing that I just thought of was when it gets back to the
>breaker, you will still have the old wiring connected to that breaker.

No, that would be disconnected and replaced by the new cable.

>So how would he end up with both connected to that breaker?

He wouldn't.

>Is there a
>code correct way to do this?

Yes -- and it sounds to me like this guy knows how to do it.
>
>For the record, I almost gave up today after talking to 4 electricians
>who said some off the wall things (I'll tell you that later---you
>won''t believe it and I don't want this thread to go on a tangent.
>Suffice to say, this guy *sounded* like he had a clue, but then again
>I got duped before and you guys came to the rescue! :)

When he comes out to look at it, you can ask him exactly what he's planning to
do -- if it doesn't sound right, tell him you'll get back to him in a day or
two, and check it out here.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Posted by John Ross on October 10, 2007, 9:32 am


Doug Miller wrote:
> >The saga of my trying to get a few receptacles grounded continues....
> >
> >Talked to another electrician, who wants to just run a new Romex cable
> >(this is 1960 house with the old Romex with no ground in it) from the
> >specific receptacle back to the panel (he hasn't come out yet to look
> >at the place, but thinks he can run it the same place as original--
> >well, not the entire original--just up wall to attic and then to
> >panel).
>
> Probably, he's intending to run the cable to the *first* receptacle on the
> circuit.
No, he said just at the receptacle to be grounded. He's NOT rewiring
the whole circuit.

> >
> >This sounds a lot cleaner than drilling holes in floor just for a
> >ground wire etc. However, you guys have gotten me up to speed on the
> >grounding issue, but I am clueless for something like this.
> >
> >Is this considered legitimate?
>
> Sure. Why wouldn't it be?
>
> >I assume you would have to connect the
> >old wires together somehow in the receptacle so the other receptacles
> >on the circuit are not cut off?
>
> Same way they're connected now.
> >
> >The other thing that I just thought of was when it gets back to the
> >breaker, you will still have the old wiring connected to that breaker.
>
> No, that would be disconnected and replaced by the new cable.
>
The new cable is just for ONE outlet. The old cable will still be
there for the other outlets, so it has to stay connected to the
breaker, right?

> >So how would he end up with both connected to that breaker?
>
> He wouldn't.

Again, I assume the old wire has to still be connected to the breaker
in some way.
>
> >Is there a
> >code correct way to do this?
>
> Yes -- and it sounds to me like this guy knows how to do it.
> >
> >For the record, I almost gave up today after talking to 4 electricians
> >who said some off the wall things (I'll tell you that later---you
> >won''t believe it and I don't want this thread to go on a tangent.
> >Suffice to say, this guy *sounded* like he had a clue, but then again
> >I got duped before and you guys came to the rescue! :)
>
> When he comes out to look at it, you can ask him exactly what he's planning to
> do -- if it doesn't sound right, tell him you'll get back to him in a day or
> two, and check it out here.
>
You know I will--be ready! :)


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