New asphalt shingle roof - some nails showing - Page 6

:> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:06:13 GMT, "ameijers"
:>
:> :
:> :> They just finished my roof job, complete tearoff to skip sheathing and
:> :> installation of 50 year architectural asphalt composition shingles.
:> :> Mostly they seem to have done good work, but on the rather big north
:> :> dormer they got sloppy when nailing on the shingles and I saw many nail
:> :> heads, maybe 20 just looking around. I told the project manager about
:> :> this and he said they'd replace those shingles. Yesterday, the crew
:> :> chief came back with one other guy and replaced a bunch of the
:> shingles.
:> :> I went up their after they left and still see quite a few nails, at
:> :> least 1/2 a dozen, and I didn't look very carefully. I believe these
:> are
:> :> 1.25" galvanized roofing nails and they put them in with a neumatic
:> :> nailer. Should I call them back? Should I just cover them with some
:> :> butyl rubber caulk (I have a tube) or a spot of black roofing cement (I
:> :> have a couple of gallons left)? I got a can of matching spray paint
:> from
:> :> them, and I could squirt a shot of it on the nail heads or caulk/cement
:> :> to hide them and for whatever protection it's worth. Thanks.
:> :> Dan
:> :Forget the city inspector- pay a couple hundred to a licensed inspector,
:> or
:> :engineer if available, for a signed inspection of the entire roof system.
:> :Send a copy to the roofing company with a letter saying you ain't paying
:> :until they fix (or rework) the flaws addressed in the inspection. Tell
:> the
:> :the roofing company that if they don't care to make good on the work they
:> :promised in the contract, the next letter will be from your attorney.
:> :
:> :aem sends...
:>
:> I think it would have to be a licensed inspector who specializes in
:> roofs. A general inspector wouldn't really qualify as an expert. How
:> would I go about finding a qualified roof inspector? I'm afraid that
:> these guys aren't going to want to do what's necessary to fix the
:> problems. The project manager is going to visit today or tomorrow. I'll
:> see what he says. Meantime, I'm thinking I should line up a real and
:> authenticated inspection by a third party. Where can I find such a
:> person? I'm in Berkeley, CA. Would the California State Contractor's
:> Licencing Board be able to furnish me with some ideas? TIA.
:>
:> Dan
:>

> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:38:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> :
> :> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:06:13 GMT, "ameijers"
> :> :
> :> :> They just finished my roof job, complete tearoff to skip sheathing
> and
> :> :> installation of 50 year architectural asphalt composition shingles.
> :> :> Mostly they seem to have done good work, but on the rather big north
> :> :> dormer they got sloppy when nailing on the shingles and I saw many
> nail
> :> :> heads, maybe 20 just looking around. I told the project manager
> about
> :> :> this and he said they'd replace those shingles. Yesterday, the crew
> :> :> chief came back with one other guy and replaced a bunch of the
> :> shingles.
> :> :> I went up their after they left and still see quite a few nails, at
> :> :> least 1/2 a dozen, and I didn't look very carefully. I believe these
> :> are
> :> :> 1.25" galvanized roofing nails and they put them in with a neumatic
> :> :> nailer. Should I call them back? Should I just cover them with some
> :> :> butyl rubber caulk (I have a tube) or a spot of black roofing cement
> (I
> :> :> have a couple of gallons left)? I got a can of matching spray paint
> :> from
> :> :> them, and I could squirt a shot of it on the nail heads or
> caulk/cement
> :> :> to hide them and for whatever protection it's worth. Thanks.
> :> :> Dan
> :> :Forget the city inspector- pay a couple hundred to a licensed
> inspector,
> :> or
> :> :engineer if available, for a signed inspection of the entire roof
> system.
> :> :Send a copy to the roofing company with a letter saying you ain't
> paying
> :> :until they fix (or rework) the flaws addressed in the inspection. Tell
> :> the
> :> :the roofing company that if they don't care to make good on the work
> they
> :> :promised in the contract, the next letter will be from your attorney.
> :> :
> :> :aem sends...
> :> I think it would have to be a licensed inspector who specializes in
> :> roofs. A general inspector wouldn't really qualify as an expert. How
> :> would I go about finding a qualified roof inspector? I'm afraid that
> :> these guys aren't going to want to do what's necessary to fix the
> :> problems. The project manager is going to visit today or tomorrow. I'll
> :> see what he says. Meantime, I'm thinking I should line up a real and
> :> authenticated inspection by a third party. Where can I find such a
> :> person? I'm in Berkeley, CA. Would the California State Contractor's
> :> Licencing Board be able to furnish me with some ideas? TIA.
> :> Dan
> :
> :Deal yourself extra cards to be sure you end up with an ace:
> :
> :1) Call the office of a large realtor and ask for names of inspectors.
> :Plenty of home buyers don't know any inspectors, but need one when
> they're
> :buying a home, so realtors MUST have names handy. If there's any such
> thing
> :as a "roof inspector" (and I don't think there is), you'll find out when
> you
> :call one of the "regular" inspectors.
> :
> :2) Call a couple of architects offices and ask the same question.
> :
> I had another thought. I have a couple of inspections of the property
> that were done for the previous owner. Those property inspection
> services might know who's qualified to do a competent and thorough roof
> inspection. I could call and ask.
> I guess you may be saying the same thing - to get names of inspectors
> from large local realtors and ask THEM.

:> :Deal yourself extra cards to be sure you end up with an ace:
:> :
:> :1) Call the office of a large realtor and ask for names of inspectors.
:> :Plenty of home buyers don't know any inspectors, but need one when
:> they're
:> :buying a home, so realtors MUST have names handy. If there's any such
:> thing
:> :as a "roof inspector" (and I don't think there is), you'll find out when
:> you
:> :call one of the "regular" inspectors.
:> :
:> :2) Call a couple of architects offices and ask the same question.
:> :
:>
:> I had another thought. I have a couple of inspections of the property
:> that were done for the previous owner. Those property inspection
:> services might know who's qualified to do a competent and thorough roof
:> inspection. I could call and ask.
:>
:> I guess you may be saying the same thing - to get names of inspectors
:> from large local realtors and ask THEM.

> On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:13:21 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> :> :Deal yourself extra cards to be sure you end up with an ace:
> :> :
> :> :1) Call the office of a large realtor and ask for names of inspectors.
> :> :Plenty of home buyers don't know any inspectors, but need one when
> :> they're
> :> :buying a home, so realtors MUST have names handy. If there's any such
> :> thing
> :> :as a "roof inspector" (and I don't think there is), you'll find out
> when
> :> you
> :> :call one of the "regular" inspectors.
> :> :
> :> :2) Call a couple of architects offices and ask the same question.
> :> :
> :> I had another thought. I have a couple of inspections of the property
> :> that were done for the previous owner. Those property inspection
> :> services might know who's qualified to do a competent and thorough roof
> :> inspection. I could call and ask.
> :> I guess you may be saying the same thing - to get names of inspectors
> :> from large local realtors and ask THEM.
> :
> :Right. Unless you're in Rochester NY, in which case you want to call
> Jerry
> :Ludwig and forget everyone else.
> Nope, it's Berkeley, CA. I called one realtor and she called a local
> roofer and called me back and gave his cell number and I'm vacillating.
> I never heard of the company, but she says they are a reputable roofer
> with 15 years experience. The roofer I called the other day I know to be
> a big reputable roofer. They said they'd charge $300 for the inspection.
> I guess I can call this guy who's company I've never heard of a and get
> a feeling about him and say I may call him back. That's only fair. At
> this point I'm more hoping for accurate information than something I can
> present as evidence in court. I'm hoping I can just get the current
> roofer to fix what should be fixed before paying him. That's assuming
> the job was basically adequate, which is something I wouldn't know for a
> fact at this point.

>> I guess you may be saying the same thing - to get names of inspectors
>> from large local realtors and ask THEM.
>Right. Unless you're in Rochester NY, in which case you want to call Jerry
>Ludwig and forget everyone else.