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No satisfaction from American Standard sherwindu 05-26-2006
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Posted by sherwindu on May 26, 2006, 1:38 am
You would think that American Standard would do something about the poor
flushing toilets they started making when the 1.3 gal rule kicked in. I made
the mistake of buying one of those in a non-standard color, Rhapsody Blue. I
did my whole bathroom in that color. However, I later discovered that the damm
toilet did
not do the job, and the plunger became a necessity. I am almost positive the
toilet is
installed properly and the line is clear because of another nearby toilet
working fine on the same line. Then I heard American Standard was coming out
with a new line
of toilets to work around the earlier poor design. This model was called the
'Champion' and came out in only two colors. I thought it was only a matter of
time before they would come out with my color. Guess again. They have
increased their
color line to what is probably the maximum, and Rhapsody Blue is not there.
There is currently only one toilet they make in my color, and it's the old style
version that doesn't cut it. So I'm left holding the plunger because I bought a
defective toilet from
a company that doesn't back up their products.

Sherwin D.


Posted by Noozer on May 26, 2006, 2:26 am

> You would think that American Standard would do something about the poor
> flushing toilets they started making when the 1.3 gal rule kicked in. I
> made
<snip>
There is currently only one toilet they make in my color, and it's the old
style
> version that doesn't cut it. So I'm left holding the plunger because I
> bought a
> defective toilet from
> a company that doesn't back up their products.

Or a consumer doesn't do their homework.



Posted by sherwindu on May 27, 2006, 2:26 am
ok smarty pants, what would you have done?

Noozer wrote:

> > You would think that American Standard would do something about the poor
> > flushing toilets they started making when the 1.3 gal rule kicked in. I
> > made
> <snip>
> There is currently only one toilet they make in my color, and it's the old
> style
> > version that doesn't cut it. So I'm left holding the plunger because I
> > bought a
> > defective toilet from
> > a company that doesn't back up their products.
>
> Or a consumer doesn't do their homework.


Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on May 27, 2006, 8:13 am
He probably means that it's often worth checking Consumer Reports. For some
products, like stereo speakers, their opinions are nothing but that -
opinions. But sometimes, you read one of their articles and see that they've
tested something in a unique way which has nothing to do with opinion.
Toilets were a good example. You probably would've bought something
different if you'd done your homework.


> ok smarty pants, what would you have done?
>
> Noozer wrote:
>
>> > You would think that American Standard would do something about the
>> > poor
>> > flushing toilets they started making when the 1.3 gal rule kicked in.
>> > I
>> > made
>> <snip>
>> There is currently only one toilet they make in my color, and it's the
>> old
>> style
>> > version that doesn't cut it. So I'm left holding the plunger because I
>> > bought a
>> > defective toilet from
>> > a company that doesn't back up their products.
>>
>> Or a consumer doesn't do their homework.
>



Posted by sherwindu on May 27, 2006, 10:59 pm
You folks have short memories. When the government came out with their edict
about 1.3 gallon
toilets, you couldn't buy much else. There was not a lot of testing going on,
so many people bought
these things thinking of saving the water and our dependencies on it. By the
time I realized what the
problems were with the 1.3's, I had already committed to 'Rhapsody Blue' for my
tub, sink,and
toilet. American Standard still makes that color in their Cadet series of old
fashioned designs. I
was hoping to see it in their more modern designs, but no luck.

I consider myself a very careful shopper, and I scan the web and literature
before I buy, especially
on high priced items. I do not put too much faith in Consumer Reports, who go
off on tangents like
downrating cars because there are not enough drink holders. Their reviews are
spotty, at best, and I
even find inaccuracies in their reports.

It's real easy to look back in hindsight and say we should have known better.
We obviously cannot
depend on either the government or our industries to do the right thing. I
waste more water with multiple
flushes than I ever did with the old style toilets. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> He probably means that it's often worth checking Consumer Reports. For some
> products, like stereo speakers, their opinions are nothing but that -
> opinions. But sometimes, you read one of their articles and see that they've
> tested something in a unique way which has nothing to do with opinion.
> Toilets were a good example. You probably would've bought something
> different if you'd done your homework.

Probably not. Their wasn't any information out at the time, and the older
style toilets were
very hard to find. Lets call it for what it is, the government and these
companies screwed us.

Sherwin D.

>
>
> > ok smarty pants, what would you have done?
> >
> > Noozer wrote:
> >
> >> > You would think that American Standard would do something about the
> >> > poor
> >> > flushing toilets they started making when the 1.3 gal rule kicked in.
> >> > I
> >> > made
> >> <snip>
> >> There is currently only one toilet they make in my color, and it's the
> >> old
> >> style
> >> > version that doesn't cut it. So I'm left holding the plunger because I
> >> > bought a
> >> > defective toilet from
> >> > a company that doesn't back up their products.
> >>
> >> Or a consumer doesn't do their homework.
> >


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