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OT: Another viewpoint on global warming Red 05-14-2008
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Posted by Frank on May 15, 2008, 8:53 am
Red wrote:
> Ok, I know it doesn't apply to home repair, but it does affect our
> daily life.
>
> Remember not that many years back, all the talk was about CFC's & the
> hole in the ozone layer? You never hear much about it anymore. Now
> all the talk is about the antartic ice cap melting due to global
> warming. Well, guess what! It now appears that the melting ice cap
> and weather patterns will be adversely influenced by the shrinking of
> the ozone hole. Do we get to have our cake & eat it too?
>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/MediaAlerts/2008/2008042426741.html

Everyone should read this:

http://www.ncpa.org/globalwarming/GlobalWarmingPrimer.pdf

The global warming crowd hates it because it puts current "crisis"
in long term perspective.

Science often deals in probability, e.g. there is a 100 percent
probability that the day will dawn tomorrow but there is only a 50%
chance of rain.

I don't think that our lives should have to drastically change based on
a probability that might be wrong. It is simplistic to base all the
climate changes on CO2 or CFC's when there are other stronger forces at
work like variable solar output.

Posted by Red on May 16, 2008, 9:39 am


>
> I don't think that our lives should have to drastically change based on
> a probability that might be wrong. =A0It is simplistic to base all the
> climate changes on CO2 or CFC's when there are other stronger forces at
> work like variable solar output.

Exactly! I get pissed everytime I read about changing to CFL's. Just
a half drop in a bucket compared to the big picture - just a feel-good
thing for people to do. Until the big industries change, there will
be no real change in the climate. For example, a study by the
International Council on Clean Transportation found that ships burning
dirty bunker fuel just because it's cheap release more sulfer dioxide
(a major component of acid rain) than all of the world's cars, trucks,
and busses combined. They also produce 27% of the worlds smog
producing nitrogen-oxide emissions. Until someone can get these major
things changed, turning to CFL's mean nothing to the big picture.
It's like saying removing the gas tax for 3 months will cure the gas
supply problem.

Red


Posted by HeyBub on May 16, 2008, 11:32 am
Red wrote:
>
> Exactly! I get pissed everytime I read about changing to CFL's. Just
> a half drop in a bucket compared to the big picture - just a feel-good
> thing for people to do. Until the big industries change, there will
> be no real change in the climate. For example, a study by the
> International Council on Clean Transportation found that ships burning
> dirty bunker fuel just because it's cheap release more sulfer dioxide
> (a major component of acid rain) than all of the world's cars, trucks,
> and busses combined. They also produce 27% of the worlds smog
> producing nitrogen-oxide emissions. Until someone can get these major
> things changed, turning to CFL's mean nothing to the big picture.
> It's like saying removing the gas tax for 3 months will cure the gas
> supply problem.

Right. CFLs, though, do lower an individual user's electric bill - unless
you tend to leave the light on all the time because it's so cheap to do so.

Interestingly, the government makes a greater profit on each gallon of gas
than do the oil companies. And the individual gas station has a higher
profit margin on beef jerkey it sells than on the gasoline.

I think the gas is sort of a sales-loss-leader to get people to come in and
buy Snickers bars and packs of smokes.



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