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Old Hoover upright vac pudding.man@gmail.com 08-07-2005
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Posted by pudding.man@gmail.com on August 7, 2005, 9:59 am


Re: Old Hoover upright vac

'owdy,

For years I've run a Hoover upright vac (Model 33, 625 w.)
in my home, mostly on wall-to-wall rugs. Still works fine.

Recently I've inherited a very similar Hoover (Model
U4189 4.3 amp) that needed a little work. I'm trying to use
it in my little workshop in the basement.

So I'm working on a wood project, and when I try to vac
sawdust/shavings from the tile floor with the U4189, it
picks up about half of 'em, and blows the other half off to
the side. My model 33 sucks it -all- up just fine.

The two uprights *look* nearly identical. Use the same belt
but a different collection bag. I've examined the U4189
pretty closely but didn't find anything obviously
wrong with it.

Anybody got a feel for why the U4189 blows air
out the side of the vacuum path? How to fix?

Also, does anyone know how to get to the lower
motor bearing to lube it?

Thanks,
Puddin'



Posted by Rich on August 7, 2005, 12:19 pm



> Re: Old Hoover upright vac
>
> 'owdy,
>
> For years I've run a Hoover upright vac (Model 33, 625 w.)
> in my home, mostly on wall-to-wall rugs. Still works fine.
>
> Recently I've inherited a very similar Hoover (Model
> U4189 4.3 amp) that needed a little work. I'm trying to use
> it in my little workshop in the basement.
>
> So I'm working on a wood project, and when I try to vac
> sawdust/shavings from the tile floor with the U4189, it
> picks up about half of 'em, and blows the other half off to
> the side. My model 33 sucks it -all- up just fine.
>
> The two uprights *look* nearly identical. Use the same belt
> but a different collection bag. I've examined the U4189
> pretty closely but didn't find anything obviously
> wrong with it.
>
> Anybody got a feel for why the U4189 blows air
> out the side of the vacuum path? How to fix?
>
> Also, does anyone know how to get to the lower
> motor bearing to lube it?
>
> Thanks,
> Puddin'
>

Is it the exaust that pushing the other half away? If so divert it some how.





Posted by CL (dnoyeB) Gilbert on August 7, 2005, 4:56 pm


pudding.man@gmail.com wrote:
> Re: Old Hoover upright vac
>
> 'owdy,
>
> For years I've run a Hoover upright vac (Model 33, 625 w.)
> in my home, mostly on wall-to-wall rugs. Still works fine.
>
> Recently I've inherited a very similar Hoover (Model
> U4189 4.3 amp) that needed a little work. I'm trying to use
> it in my little workshop in the basement.
>
> So I'm working on a wood project, and when I try to vac
> sawdust/shavings from the tile floor with the U4189, it
> picks up about half of 'em, and blows the other half off to
> the side. My model 33 sucks it -all- up just fine.
>
> The two uprights *look* nearly identical. Use the same belt
> but a different collection bag. I've examined the U4189
> pretty closely but didn't find anything obviously
> wrong with it.
>
> Anybody got a feel for why the U4189 blows air
> out the side of the vacuum path? How to fix?
>
> Also, does anyone know how to get to the lower
> motor bearing to lube it?
>
> Thanks,
> Puddin'
>

hoover is cheap junk. its the best i have found to use though. the
belt has nothing to do with suction, the fan does. those cheap fans
tend to wear out and get broken by pennies and other hard things sucked
into the device. inspect the fan and see how it looks. if its shot,
trash the thing and buy a new one...you can get parts on hoovers website
but its tough to find the exact one you want since they got so many
frikin model numbers for the same thing its insane.

--
Respectfully,


CL Gilbert


Posted by Puddin' Man on August 8, 2005, 3:50 pm


On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:56:42 -0400, "CL (dnoyeB) Gilbert"

>pudding.man@gmail.com wrote:
>> Re: Old Hoover upright vac
>>
>> 'owdy,
>>
>> For years I've run a Hoover upright vac (Model 33, 625 w.)
>> in my home, mostly on wall-to-wall rugs. Still works fine.
>>
>> Recently I've inherited a very similar Hoover (Model
>> U4189 4.3 amp) that needed a little work. I'm trying to use
>> it in my little workshop in the basement.
>>
>> So I'm working on a wood project, and when I try to vac
>> sawdust/shavings from the tile floor with the U4189, it
>> picks up about half of 'em, and blows the other half off to
>> the side. My model 33 sucks it -all- up just fine.
>>
>> The two uprights *look* nearly identical. Use the same belt
>> but a different collection bag. I've examined the U4189
>> pretty closely but didn't find anything obviously
>> wrong with it.
>>
>> Anybody got a feel for why the U4189 blows air
>> out the side of the vacuum path? How to fix?
>>
>> Also, does anyone know how to get to the lower
>> motor bearing to lube it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Puddin'
>>
>
>hoover is cheap junk. its the best i have found to use though.

If its the best you've found, I'm not certain why you'd
call 'em cheap junk. Near as I can tell the old uprights
were "cost-effective".

>the
>belt has nothing to do with suction, the fan does. those cheap fans
>tend to wear out and get broken by pennies and other hard things sucked
>into the device. inspect the fan and see how it looks. if its shot,
>trash the thing and buy a new one...you can get parts on hoovers website
>but its tough to find the exact one you want since they got so many
>frikin model numbers for the same thing its insane.

Thanks. I'll take a hard look at the fan blades.

P
>--
>Respectfully,
>
>
>CL Gilbert


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Posted by Tom on August 7, 2005, 10:02 pm



> Re: Old Hoover upright vac
>
> 'owdy,
>
> For years I've run a Hoover upright vac (Model 33, 625 w.)
> in my home, mostly on wall-to-wall rugs. Still works fine.
>
> Recently I've inherited a very similar Hoover (Model
> U4189 4.3 amp) that needed a little work. I'm trying to use
> it in my little workshop in the basement.
>
> So I'm working on a wood project, and when I try to vac
> sawdust/shavings from the tile floor with the U4189, it
> picks up about half of 'em, and blows the other half off to
> the side. My model 33 sucks it -all- up just fine.
>
> The two uprights *look* nearly identical. Use the same belt
> but a different collection bag. I've examined the U4189
> pretty closely but didn't find anything obviously
> wrong with it.
>
> Anybody got a feel for why the U4189 blows air
> out the side of the vacuum path? How to fix?
>
> Also, does anyone know how to get to the lower
> motor bearing to lube it?
>
> Thanks,
> Puddin'
It's probably the spinning brushes that are throwing things off to the side.
If you're only vacuuming a tile floor, remove the belt and brush assembly if
the vacuum doesn't have a "hard floor" setting that takes the brush out of
play. I doubt the motor bearing is designed to be lubed.
Tom.
>




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