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Old Plaster Ceiling won't hold Paint after Refinishing Deano 12-16-2006
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Posted by Doug Miller on December 16, 2006, 3:27 pm


wrote:
>
>>Hi, we have an old plaster ceiling in the kitchen in one of my rental
>>houses. At some point, it had been covered over with lath and ceiling
>>tile, which has been removed. Once corner had some old water damage
>>from an upstairs bathroom. I used joint compound over all the holes
>>and did a lot of sanding...then used Kilz for primer as well as a
>>glossy ceiling paint. Not four months later, the ceiling is
>>peeling...apparently the joint compound is peeling away from the
>>original plaster finish.
>>Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
>>
>>Dean in Cincinnati
>>dherbert53@aol.com
>
> What you have is thick layer of cooking grease on the plaster. You
>have to degrease.
>
Hmmm... hadn't thought about that, but you could well be right.

To the OP: washing soda (not baking soda) dissolved in warm water is an
excellent grease remover. You can find washing soda on the laundry aisle of
most grocery stores. Dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 cup in a quart of warm water, and
wash the ceiling with it. Wear rubber gloves, and, since you'll be working
overhead, eye protection.

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Posted by on December 16, 2006, 3:55 pm



Deano wrote:
> Hi, we have an old plaster ceiling in the kitchen in one of my rental
> houses. At some point, it had been covered over with lath and ceiling
> tile, which has been removed. Once corner had some old water damage
> from an upstairs bathroom. I used joint compound over all the holes
> and did a lot of sanding...then used Kilz for primer as well as a
> glossy ceiling paint. Not four months later, the ceiling is
> peeling...apparently the joint compound is peeling away from the
> original plaster finish.
> Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
>
> Dean in Cincinnati
> dherbert53@aol.com

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Posted by Deano on December 17, 2006, 8:56 am



Thanks guys...Great Advice...I'll let you know what happens.

Dean in Cincy


Posted by ahole on December 23, 2006, 5:41 am


you need to use a bonding agent for the compound to stick to the old plaster
and Kiltz for a primer sucks
try using "old yankee" made for plaster with calcium



> Hi, we have an old plaster ceiling in the kitchen in one of my rental
> houses. At some point, it had been covered over with lath and ceiling
> tile, which has been removed. Once corner had some old water damage
> from an upstairs bathroom. I used joint compound over all the holes
> and did a lot of sanding...then used Kilz for primer as well as a
> glossy ceiling paint. Not four months later, the ceiling is
> peeling...apparently the joint compound is peeling away from the
> original plaster finish.
> Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
>
> Dean in Cincinnati
> dherbert53@aol.com
>



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on December 23, 2006, 9:19 am


at this point your probably better off drywalling over the mess, or
better yet removing all the existing plaster and lathe, inspecting the
plumbing then drywalling oor replastering.

with failing adhesion between coats any repairs now may just make it
worse.

plus opening the cieling may uncover a hidden problem your not aware
of.

My neighbor ripped hios old cieling down, replaced ALL his plumbing in
that area, then put in a new drywall cieling with 2 inspection ports
for easy future access.

not bautiful but pretty good idea, when future troubles occur


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