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Old boiler to New boiler and water heater New & Improved - N/F John 03-10-2008
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Posted by New & Improved - N/F John on March 10, 2008, 9:59 pm
I want to get a new heating/water system. I will heat with oil and bath
with gas heated water. My chimney has no liner. I'll need a stainless
steel liner. One chimney guy wants to come over, inspect, suggest what to
do, then give a quote while charging me for the inspection. The second
chimney guy said he'll come over after the new equipment is installed and
then size and certify. What is the proper order of liner installation?



Posted by ransley on March 10, 2008, 10:22 pm
On Mar 10, 8:59=A0pm, "New & Improved - N/F John"
> I want to get a new heating/water system. =A0I will heat with oil and bath=

> with gas heated water. =A0My chimney has no liner. =A0I'll need a stainles=
s
> steel liner. =A0One chimney guy wants to come over, inspect, suggest what =
to
> do, then give a quote while charging me for the inspection. =A0The second
> chimney guy said he'll come over after the new equipment is installed and
> then size and certify. =A0What is the proper order of liner installation?

Why not heat all with gas and direct vent with a high efficency
heating system , saves 8-14% on heat and needs no chimney, vent out
with PVC at ground level. Only a hack heater guy will install you
with a bad flue-chimney. Get a Permit, and free inspection, get a load
calculation. What you save on a liner put into equipment and
insulation and save more on utilities, maybe 25% or more

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on March 10, 2008, 10:28 pm

>I want to get a new heating/water system. I will heat with oil and bath
> with gas heated water. My chimney has no liner. I'll need a stainless
> steel liner. One chimney guy wants to come over, inspect, suggest what to
> do, then give a quote while charging me for the inspection. The second
> chimney guy said he'll come over after the new equipment is installed and
> then size and certify. What is the proper order of liner installation?
>
>

Charging for inspection is common for a chimney sweep. You can usually
negotiate the fee back if you have work done.

If you have gas coming to the house, it is probably cheaper to heat with gas
all the way and do away with oil. There are many new models out there, many
that do not need a chimney and in your case, the associated expenses. Get
some estimates from heating installers.



Posted by Big_Jake on March 10, 2008, 10:37 pm
On Mar 10, 8:59 pm, "New & Improved - N/F John"
> I want to get a new heating/water system. I will heat with oil and bath
> with gas heated water. My chimney has no liner. I'll need a stainless
> steel liner. One chimney guy wants to come over, inspect, suggest what to
> do, then give a quote while charging me for the inspection. The second
> chimney guy said he'll come over after the new equipment is installed and
> then size and certify. What is the proper order of liner installation?

In addition to what the others said, if you decide to go with a gas
heating appliance that vents through the chimney (boiler or furnace) ,
the liner wouldn't (probably) need to be stainless. For gas
appliances, the standard liners are aluminum, which is way, way
cheaper than stainless.

JK

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on March 10, 2008, 10:40 pm
> On Mar 10, 8:59 pm, "New & Improved - N/F John"
>
> > I want to get a new heating/water system. =EF=BF=BDI will heat with oil =
and bath
> > with gas heated water. =EF=BF=BDMy chimney has no liner. =EF=BF=BDI'll n=
eed a stainless
> > steel liner. =EF=BF=BDOne chimney guy wants to come over, inspect, sugge=
st what to
> > do, then give a quote while charging me for the inspection. =EF=BF=BDThe=
second
> > chimney guy said he'll come over after the new equipment is installed an=
d
> > then size and certify. =EF=BF=BDWhat is the proper order of liner instal=
lation?
>
> In addition to what the others said, if you decide to go with a gas
> heating appliance that vents through the chimney (boiler or furnace) ,
> the liner wouldn't (probably) need to be stainless. =EF=BF=BDFor gas
> appliances, the standard liners are aluminum, which is way, way
> cheaper than stainless.
>
> JK

might as well go all gas with direct vent furnace and seperate direct
vent hot water tank.

the chimney wouldnt be used anymore and everything will be uch more
efficent.

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