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Outdoor Weatherproof Receptacles - Curiosity Wayne Boatwright 04-26-2008
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Posted by Tony Hwang on April 26, 2008, 7:43 pm
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 26 Apr 2008 04:21:56p, Tony Hwang told us...
>
>
>>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This is a question of curiosity more than anything, as I don't plan to
>>>make changes to the way I have installed outdoor outlets.
>>>
>>>In several homes, including the present one where I am currently
>>>installing outdoor outlets, this has been my method...
>>>
>>>At a point opposite on the inside of the house where a receptable
>>>already exists, I drill a hole in the outside wall (cedar), and from
>>>the inside, push through a length of exterior grade "romex" (the same
>>>guage as the interior wiring) through an existing self-clamping opening
>>>in the interior junction box to the outside and through the hole. I
>>>connect the inside wires to the existing receptacle.
>>>
>>>On the outside, I seal the hole around the romex with silicone sealant,
>>>and mount an exterior weatherproof box (also sealed behind it with
>>>silicone swealant. After the sealant has cured, I connect a GFCI
>>>receptacle to the romex and mount it in the box. I then attach an
>>>"always in use" hooded cover plate to complete the installation.
>>>
>>>While I know this has proven to be safe over all the years I've used
>>>this technique, I wonder whether it is really according to code, and if
>>>not, what exactly would the code require instead.
>>>
>>>BTW, I currently live in Mesa, AZ, if that makes a difference.
>>>
>>>Thanks for any responses.
>>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>And better be on GFCI circuit.
>>
>
>
> The receptacle I install in the box is GFCI. I need more than that?
>
Hi,
You are OK then. My exterior ones are daisy chained. And Jacuzzi tub is
the only one having it's own GFCI breaker.

Posted by Wayne Boatwright on April 26, 2008, 8:15 pm
On Sat 26 Apr 2008 04:43:43p, Tony Hwang told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Sat 26 Apr 2008 04:21:56p, Tony Hwang told us...
>>
>>
>>>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>This is a question of curiosity more than anything, as I don't plan to
>>>>make changes to the way I have installed outdoor outlets.
>>>>
>>>>In several homes, including the present one where I am currently
>>>>installing outdoor outlets, this has been my method...
>>>>
>>>>At a point opposite on the inside of the house where a receptable
>>>>already exists, I drill a hole in the outside wall (cedar), and from
>>>>the inside, push through a length of exterior grade "romex" (the same
>>>>guage as the interior wiring) through an existing self-clamping opening
>>>>in the interior junction box to the outside and through the hole. I
>>>>connect the inside wires to the existing receptacle.
>>>>
>>>>On the outside, I seal the hole around the romex with silicone sealant,
>>>>and mount an exterior weatherproof box (also sealed behind it with
>>>>silicone swealant. After the sealant has cured, I connect a GFCI
>>>>receptacle to the romex and mount it in the box. I then attach an
>>>>"always in use" hooded cover plate to complete the installation.
>>>>
>>>>While I know this has proven to be safe over all the years I've used
>>>>this technique, I wonder whether it is really according to code, and if
>>>>not, what exactly would the code require instead.
>>>>
>>>>BTW, I currently live in Mesa, AZ, if that makes a difference.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any responses.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>And better be on GFCI circuit.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The receptacle I install in the box is GFCI. I need more than that?
>>
> Hi,
> You are OK then. My exterior ones are daisy chained. And Jacuzzi tub is
> the only one having it's own GFCI breaker.
>

Each of my exterior outlets is a one-off with an indoor outlet (although
some of these are on the same circuit in the main panel), and each has its
own GFCI receptacle. Back in OH when we had a Jacuzzi tub, it also had its
own GFCI breaker. I presently have no GFCI breakers in my main panel. For
now I don't think there's a need. It's a brand new home, and every outlet
that needs GFCI protection has it's on protected outlet.

One flaw that I made in the first house where I installed exterior outlets
was replacing the interior receptacle with a GFCI, then feeding the
exterior outlet. It was inconvenient when something outside would cause a
fault and whatever was plugged in inside would also go out. Lesson
learned. :-)

Thanks for your comments...

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Posted by Mark Lloyd on April 26, 2008, 9:25 pm
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:15:52 GMT, Wayne Boatwright

>On Sat 26 Apr 2008 04:43:43p, Tony Hwang told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Sat 26 Apr 2008 04:21:56p, Tony Hwang told us...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This is a question of curiosity more than anything, as I don't plan to
>>>>>make changes to the way I have installed outdoor outlets.
>>>>>
>>>>>In several homes, including the present one where I am currently
>>>>>installing outdoor outlets, this has been my method...
>>>>>
>>>>>At a point opposite on the inside of the house where a receptable
>>>>>already exists, I drill a hole in the outside wall (cedar), and from
>>>>>the inside, push through a length of exterior grade "romex" (the same
>>>>>guage as the interior wiring) through an existing self-clamping opening
>>>>>in the interior junction box to the outside and through the hole. I
>>>>>connect the inside wires to the existing receptacle.
>>>>>
>>>>>On the outside, I seal the hole around the romex with silicone sealant,
>>>>>and mount an exterior weatherproof box (also sealed behind it with
>>>>>silicone swealant. After the sealant has cured, I connect a GFCI
>>>>>receptacle to the romex and mount it in the box. I then attach an
>>>>>"always in use" hooded cover plate to complete the installation.
>>>>>
>>>>>While I know this has proven to be safe over all the years I've used
>>>>>this technique, I wonder whether it is really according to code, and if
>>>>>not, what exactly would the code require instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW, I currently live in Mesa, AZ, if that makes a difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for any responses.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>And better be on GFCI circuit.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The receptacle I install in the box is GFCI. I need more than that?
>>>
>> Hi,
>> You are OK then. My exterior ones are daisy chained. And Jacuzzi tub is
>> the only one having it's own GFCI breaker.
>>
>
>Each of my exterior outlets is a one-off with an indoor outlet (although
>some of these are on the same circuit in the main panel), and each has its
>own GFCI receptacle. Back in OH when we had a Jacuzzi tub, it also had its
>own GFCI breaker. I presently have no GFCI breakers in my main panel. For
>now I don't think there's a need. It's a brand new home, and every outlet
>that needs GFCI protection has it's on protected outlet.
>
>One flaw that I made in the first house where I installed exterior outlets
>was replacing the interior receptacle with a GFCI, then feeding the
>exterior outlet. It was inconvenient when something outside would cause a
>fault and whatever was plugged in inside would also go out. Lesson
>learned. :-)
>

I know someone around here who has 2 exterior receptacles wired to
interior ones, with the GFCI in the interior location. This makes it
easy to control holiday lights without having to go out in bad
weather.

>Thanks for your comments...
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Never underestimate the power of stupid
people in large groups"

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on April 26, 2008, 10:06 pm

>
> I know someone around here who has 2 exterior receptacles wired to
> interior ones, with the GFCI in the interior location. This makes it
> easy to control holiday lights without having to go out in bad
> weather.

Never thought of doing that. The outlet I put in the front of my house is
controlled by an indoor switch for that reason.



Posted by Tony Hwang on April 26, 2008, 10:33 pm
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>I know someone around here who has 2 exterior receptacles wired to
>>interior ones, with the GFCI in the interior location. This makes it
>>easy to control holiday lights without having to go out in bad
>>weather.
>
>
> Never thought of doing that. The outlet I put in the front of my house is
> controlled by an indoor switch for that reason.
>
>
Hi,
I just use digital timer. X-mas lights receptacle is built-in right
under the eave and on exterior walls where needed.

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