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Posted by Rick Samuel on October 3, 2009, 2:37 am
> Have any of you ever built an outdoor pond? I'm curious whether I
> really need to use 45 mil pond liner, or can I save $$$ and go with 20
> mil for about 30% less?
> I'm in NC, if it matters.
Yes, use 45 mil. We have a 1000 gal pond, 8 years old. This next spring
going to double or triple the size. Used 45 mil last time and will again.
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Posted by stan on October 3, 2009, 6:40 am
wrote:
> > Have any of you ever built an outdoor pond? I'm curious whether I
> > really need to use 45 mil pond liner, or can I save $$$ and go with 20
> > mil for about 30% less?
> > I'm in NC, if it matters.
> =A0Yes, use 45 mil. =A0We have a 1000 gal pond, 8 years old. =A0This next=
spring
> going to double or triple the size. =A0Used 45 mil last time and will aga=
in.
PS. Private pond nice feature. There may be insurance/liability
implications if one 'builds' a pond and if someone were to wander in
(especially if property unfenced) and fall in. This similar to a
having an unfenced, locked gate access, private swimming pool on one's
property. If pond is/was a natural feature of the landscape the
situation might be different?
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Posted by Rick Samuel on October 4, 2009, 1:05 am
> Yes, use 45 mil. We have a 1000 gal pond, 8 years old. This next spring
> going to double or triple the size. Used 45 mil last time and will again.
PS. Private pond nice feature. There may be insurance/liability
implications if one 'builds' a pond and if someone were to wander in
(especially if property unfenced) and fall in. This similar to a
having an unfenced, locked gate access, private swimming pool on one's
property. If pond is/was a natural feature of the landscape the
situation might be different?
It's fenced, 6' stockade and I'm armed. :) Nobody wanders in.
To the OP, make it bigger than you "think" you want.
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Posted by Jim Elbrecht on October 3, 2009, 7:57 am
>Have any of you ever built an outdoor pond?
Yep- Last year. I'm in NY. The pond is tiny- 8x12x2ft deep at its
deepest point. Its primary purpose was for pugs to wade in- but
it has become a home to some beautiful flora and fauna. [and the dogs
cool off in it from time to time]
> I'm curious whether I
>really need to use 45 mil pond liner, or can I save $$$ and go with 20
>mil for about 30% less?
No matter the size or where you live- the money you save on a lighter
liner is miniscule compare to the amount of work & money you'll have
invested by the end of year one. It would be foolish to skimp on
the weakest link. When a kingfisher plunges down and punctures
your liner you'll wish you'd spent the extra $$. [what *is* the
difference?]
45mil EPDM is the *only* way to go. [well-- I suppose plastered
concrete would do- but it is a whole nother story.
http://ponddepot.com/pondliner.html has 45mil epdm for .55/sq foot. [a
15x20 would be $165]
I also bought a lot of supplies from azponds.com. I've managed to
spend a couple grand on things over the last 2 years- mostly online
for 1/2 what the local pond store or the borg sells things for.
Hook up with http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pondkeepers/
and news:rec.ponds.moderated for some helpful folks to guide you
through the process. Then go for it. One of the most satisfying
projects I've undertaken.
Jim
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Posted by Colbyt on October 3, 2009, 8:17 am
> Have any of you ever built an outdoor pond? I'm curious whether I
> really need to use 45 mil pond liner, or can I save $$$ and go with 20
> mil for about 30% less?
> I'm in NC, if it matters.
45 mil is the only way to go. Mine is 15 years old (ag zone 6) and going
strong.
You may find a local to you better price than mail order. I did and saved
about 20% while paying no added shipping.
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> really need to use 45 mil pond liner, or can I save $$$ and go with 20
> mil for about 30% less?
> I'm in NC, if it matters.