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Outlet in the middle of the floor MiamiCuse 04-26-2008
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on April 26, 2008, 10:49 pm
> James wrote:
> > Hmmmmmm......... i am not a contractor or much of a handyman, so this ma=
y be
> > silly, =EF=BF=BDbut.........
>
> > Instead of thinking about cutting through 4 inches of concrete and layin=
g
> > pvc pipe down, why can't you rent a concrete cutter and just cut a =EF=
=BF=BD1/2
> > inch =EF=BF=BDslit in the concrete, sufficient to lay down =EF=BF=BDUG w=
ire (or whatever
> > would meet the code) into the slit ??
>
> > Any reason why this would not work ?
>
> > James
>
> It would work, but it is not to code. =EF=BF=BDAny wiring (with the one
> notable exception of grounding cable) in concrete must be in a
> conduit.
>
> --
> Robert Allison
> Rimshot, Inc.
> Georgetown, TX

well a concrete saw cuts well, so use conduit.

its wierd when people need to go thru concrete they think it
impossible.......

with the proper tools its no biggie

Posted by MiamiCuse on April 30, 2008, 9:40 pm

> James wrote:
> > Hmmmmmm......... i am not a contractor or much of a handyman, so this
> > may be
> > silly, ?but.........
>
> > Instead of thinking about cutting through 4 inches of concrete and
> > laying
> > pvc pipe down, why can't you rent a concrete cutter and just cut a ?1/2
> > inch ?slit in the concrete, sufficient to lay down ?UG wire (or whatever
> > would meet the code) into the slit ??
>
> > Any reason why this would not work ?
>
> > James
>
> It would work, but it is not to code. ?Any wiring (with the one
> notable exception of grounding cable) in concrete must be in a
> conduit.
>
> --
> Robert Allison
> Rimshot, Inc.
> Georgetown, TX

>well a concrete saw cuts well, so use conduit.

>its wierd when people need to go thru concrete they think it
>impossible.......

>with the proper tools its no biggie

I just hate the dust...Last time I cut some solid concrete...was a mess.



Posted by BobK207 on April 26, 2008, 10:49 pm
> I am thinking of custom making a large table (about 120" long by 48" wide)=

> in the dinning room that will actually protrude about 1/3 of it into the
> kitchen. =A0One end of it will serve as an extra island counter for the
> kitchen. =A0Since this table will be in the middle of the space, I think I=

> will need an outlet in case I want to plug in and charge a cell phone, or
> plug in a laptop to work on things, may be a juicer etc...
>
> Only problem is the floor is a 4" thick concrete slab and the nearest wall=

> is 12 feet 2 inches away from the proposed outlet location.
>
> I am not too excited about trenching 12 feet of concrete to put in a PVC
> pipe for underground wiring, but I don't think there is another way around=

> it. =A0I have seen some very flat 12/2 cables that are rated for outdoor U=
G
> use but I am not sure. =A0I will be using stone tiles in the kitchen and t=
hose
> flat cables may be a possibility but I don't know if that is a good idea.
>
> Another option is to go from the top, then put in a decorative pole from
> ceiling to floor punching through the table and the wires go inside, I cou=
ld
> even do phone and cat5 cables in it too.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> MC

The "pole", though perhaps less attractive, seems like a lot less work
and a lot fewer potential problems downstream.

Crawl spaces rock! :)

cheers
Bob

Posted by metspitzer on April 26, 2008, 11:49 pm
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:23:08 -0400, "MiamiCuse"

>I am thinking of custom making a large table (about 120" long by 48" wide)
>in the dinning room that will actually protrude about 1/3 of it into the
>kitchen. One end of it will serve as an extra island counter for the
>kitchen. Since this table will be in the middle of the space, I think I
>will need an outlet in case I want to plug in and charge a cell phone, or
>plug in a laptop to work on things, may be a juicer etc...
>
>Only problem is the floor is a 4" thick concrete slab and the nearest wall
>is 12 feet 2 inches away from the proposed outlet location.
>
>I am not too excited about trenching 12 feet of concrete to put in a PVC
>pipe for underground wiring, but I don't think there is another way around
>it. I have seen some very flat 12/2 cables that are rated for outdoor UG
>use but I am not sure. I will be using stone tiles in the kitchen and those
>flat cables may be a possibility but I don't know if that is a good idea.
>
>Another option is to go from the top, then put in a decorative pole from
>ceiling to floor punching through the table and the wires go inside, I could
>even do phone and cat5 cables in it too.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>MC
>
Flat cable works fine, especially on the side with no traffic.


Posted by metspitzer on April 26, 2008, 11:55 pm
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:23:08 -0400, "MiamiCuse"

>I am thinking of custom making a large table (about 120" long by 48" wide)
>in the dinning room that will actually protrude about 1/3 of it into the
>kitchen. One end of it will serve as an extra island counter for the
>kitchen. Since this table will be in the middle of the space, I think I
>will need an outlet in case I want to plug in and charge a cell phone, or
>plug in a laptop to work on things, may be a juicer etc...
>
>Only problem is the floor is a 4" thick concrete slab and the nearest wall
>is 12 feet 2 inches away from the proposed outlet location.
>
>I am not too excited about trenching 12 feet of concrete to put in a PVC
>pipe for underground wiring, but I don't think there is another way around
>it. I have seen some very flat 12/2 cables that are rated for outdoor UG
>use but I am not sure. I will be using stone tiles in the kitchen and those
>flat cables may be a possibility but I don't know if that is a good idea.
>
>Another option is to go from the top, then put in a decorative pole from
>ceiling to floor punching through the table and the wires go inside, I could
>even do phone and cat5 cables in it too.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>MC
>

This kind of flat cable

http://www.electriduct.com/power-extensions.html


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