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Outlet in the middle of the floor MiamiCuse 04-26-2008
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Posted by cshenk on April 27, 2008, 6:47 am
"MiamiCuse" wrote

> Another option is to go from the top, then put in a decorative pole from
> ceiling to floor punching through the table and the wires go inside, I
> could even do phone and cat5 cables in it too.

I actually like this idea better. I am sure one end f that table is in a
spot where extra light would be good so you can make it almost look a bit
like a 'floor lamp' with light extensions on it, then discrete outlets all
along the base where it meets the table. Say, something like a square
'pole' about 4inches on all sides? Then take 2 or 4 decorative lights such
as you might see on a ceiling fan and put them about it. You could even put
a switch or dimmer for them on the pole.

If the lighting assembly fit better in the livingroom portion, don't
dispair. You can run some outlet from under the table then and pop it back
up at the kitchen end. (Be sure it's set so that kitchen common liquids you
may have on that ned of the table cant get in. Flush to the table top
wouldnt be safe though might sound nifty.



Posted by BillGill on April 27, 2008, 9:42 am
MiamiCuse wrote:

> Another option is to go from the top, then put in a decorative pole from
> ceiling to floor punching through the table and the wires go inside, I could
> even do phone and cat5 cables in it too.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> MC
>
>
If you do this and want to put in the signal wiring it needs to be separated
from the power wiring by a metal separator. This is for safety and noise
suppression.

Bill Gill

Posted by on April 27, 2008, 10:45 am
> MiamiCuse wrote:
> > Another option is to go from the top, then put in a decorative pole from=

> > ceiling to floor punching through the table and the wires go inside, I c=
ould
> > even do phone and cat5 cables in it too.
>
> > Thoughts?
>
> > MC
>
> If you do this and want to put in the signal wiring it needs to be separat=
ed
> from the power wiring by a metal separator. =A0This is for safety and nois=
e
> suppression.
>
> Bill Gill

I've recently seen some new construction where the builder chose to
use the pole idea with a center island. It looked absolutely
terrible. In an otherwise beautiful kitchen, it's the one thing that
immediately draws your eye.

Not saying there might not be designs this could work with. But
unless I was absolutely sure it looks good and doesn't detract at all,
I would not do it. As others have pointed out, cutting a channel for
a conduit into concrete really isn't difficult and shouldn't be a
design tradeoff consideration for something that you're going to have
to live with, deal with a resale, etc.

Posted by on April 27, 2008, 11:16 am
wrote:

>MiamiCuse wrote:
>
>> Another option is to go from the top, then put in a decorative pole from
>> ceiling to floor punching through the table and the wires go inside, I could
>> even do phone and cat5 cables in it too.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> MC
>>
>>
>If you do this and want to put in the signal wiring it needs to be separated
>from the power wiring by a metal separator. This is for safety and noise
>suppression.
>
>Bill Gill

If you are only using the raceway as a duct you can use "cables" in
the same pipe. For exaample you can put a 3/4" piece of PVC conduit in
the slab and pull a Romex and a Cat 5 through it as long as you don't
break into the Romex until it gets separated from the Cat 5.
Cable jackets are separation

Posted by BillGill on April 28, 2008, 8:55 am
gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

> If you are only using the raceway as a duct you can use "cables" in
> the same pipe. For exaample you can put a 3/4" piece of PVC conduit in
> the slab and pull a Romex and a Cat 5 through it as long as you don't
> break into the Romex until it gets separated from the Cat 5.
> Cable jackets are separation

It doesn't keep you from getting noise in the circuits. You should
never run signal cables in the same race way with power circuits. You
may get away with it for a while, but you never know when it will fail.

Bill Gill

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