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Paint matching (am I expecting too much...?) Nate Nagel 11-03-2009
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Posted by N8N on November 4, 2009, 10:59 am


> wrote:
> >> Red Green wrote:
> >> > Like to add, when touching up even from an original can, blend/fog b=
y
> >> > running the brush/roller virtually dry way past the area being done.
> >> > Differences are harder to notice.
> >> IME and IMO this is the best solution for the OP assuming that the new=
paint
> >> color is pretty close. =A0One can also feather out by diluting the pai=
nt.
> >It's not at all, that's the problem. =A0I've had three different batches
> >of paint mixed and only one was close enough to even try putting it on
> >the wall, and it is clearly different - patches look like shadows.
> I guess I just don't repaint often enough-- or maybe too often-- but
> in 50 years of home-owning and doing my own painting, I don't recall a
> single time that I tried to paint part of a wall-- and only a handful
> of times that I painted less than the entire room.

We bought a very old house a couple years ago, and the PO's repainted
before the sale - and they apparently were big fans of mounting stuff
on the wall (e.g. mirrors etc.) and were NOT big fans of removing
things like light fixtures, mirrors, switch plates, etc. when
repainting. So for an example, when we had air conditioning installed
and had the old round thermostat replaced with a new programmable one,
there was an ugly exposed area of old paint, mounting holes, etc. left
behind with a big ridge of brush marks showing the outline of the old
thermostat. Likewise, they'd glued pieces of mirror on the wall in
the living room to conceal the old electrical boxes for wall sconces;
when I ripped those down to install new sconces I've got more
ugliness. (but I still have to take the big mirror - mounted like a
bathroom mirror, with clips - down over the mantel, which will cause
another big mess-o-ugliness) In each case there's enough brush marks,
holes, etc. that most of these areas get a skim coat of drywall mud,
primer, etc.

Once I've got enough of these really egregious trouble spots done,
then we'll likely go ahead and repaint whole walls or rooms, but I'm
just trying to keep the house from looking like a perpetual
construction site while this is going on.

nate

Posted by RicodJour on November 4, 2009, 11:11 am


> > wrote:
> > >> Red Green wrote:
> > >> > Like to add, when touching up even from an original can, blend/fog=
by
> > >> > running the brush/roller virtually dry way past the area being don=
e.
> > >> > Differences are harder to notice.
> > >> IME and IMO this is the best solution for the OP assuming that the n=
ew paint
> > >> color is pretty close. =A0One can also feather out by diluting the p=
aint.
> > >It's not at all, that's the problem. =A0I've had three different batch=
es
> > >of paint mixed and only one was close enough to even try putting it on
> > >the wall, and it is clearly different - patches look like shadows.
> > I guess I just don't repaint often enough-- or maybe too often-- but
> > in 50 years of home-owning and doing my own painting, I don't recall a
> > single time that I tried to paint part of a wall-- and only a handful
> > of times that I painted less than the entire room.
> We bought a very old house a couple years ago, and the PO's repainted
> before the sale - and they apparently were big fans of mounting stuff
> on the wall (e.g. mirrors etc.) and were NOT big fans of removing
> things like light fixtures, mirrors, switch plates, etc. when
> repainting. =A0So for an example, when we had air conditioning installed
> and had the old round thermostat replaced with a new programmable one,
> there was an ugly exposed area of old paint, mounting holes, etc. left
> behind with a big ridge of brush marks showing the outline of the old
> thermostat. =A0Likewise, they'd glued pieces of mirror on the wall in
> the living room to conceal the old electrical boxes for wall sconces;
> when I ripped those down to install new sconces I've got more
> ugliness. =A0(but I still have to take the big mirror - mounted like a
> bathroom mirror, with clips - down over the mantel, which will cause
> another big mess-o-ugliness) =A0In each case there's enough brush marks,
> holes, etc. that most of these areas get a skim coat of drywall mud,
> primer, etc.
> Once I've got enough of these really egregious trouble spots done,
> then we'll likely go ahead and repaint whole walls or rooms, but I'm
> just trying to keep the house from looking like a perpetual
> construction site while this is going on.

In that case just pull paint patches all over the wall and tell people
it's Venetian Plaster. They'll go, "Ooooh!" and you'll wink at the
wife. ;)

R

Posted by N8N on November 4, 2009, 11:31 am


> > > wrote:
> > > >> Red Green wrote:
> > > >> > Like to add, when touching up even from an original can, blend/f=
og by
> > > >> > running the brush/roller virtually dry way past the area being d=
one.
> > > >> > Differences are harder to notice.
> > > >> IME and IMO this is the best solution for the OP assuming that the=
new paint
> > > >> color is pretty close. =A0One can also feather out by diluting the=
paint.
> > > >It's not at all, that's the problem. =A0I've had three different bat=
ches
> > > >of paint mixed and only one was close enough to even try putting it =
on
> > > >the wall, and it is clearly different - patches look like shadows.
> > > I guess I just don't repaint often enough-- or maybe too often-- but
> > > in 50 years of home-owning and doing my own painting, I don't recall =
a
> > > single time that I tried to paint part of a wall-- and only a handful
> > > of times that I painted less than the entire room.
> > We bought a very old house a couple years ago, and the PO's repainted
> > before the sale - and they apparently were big fans of mounting stuff
> > on the wall (e.g. mirrors etc.) and were NOT big fans of removing
> > things like light fixtures, mirrors, switch plates, etc. when
> > repainting. =A0So for an example, when we had air conditioning installe=
d
> > and had the old round thermostat replaced with a new programmable one,
> > there was an ugly exposed area of old paint, mounting holes, etc. left
> > behind with a big ridge of brush marks showing the outline of the old
> > thermostat. =A0Likewise, they'd glued pieces of mirror on the wall in
> > the living room to conceal the old electrical boxes for wall sconces;
> > when I ripped those down to install new sconces I've got more
> > ugliness. =A0(but I still have to take the big mirror - mounted like a
> > bathroom mirror, with clips - down over the mantel, which will cause
> > another big mess-o-ugliness) =A0In each case there's enough brush marks=
,
> > holes, etc. that most of these areas get a skim coat of drywall mud,
> > primer, etc.
> > Once I've got enough of these really egregious trouble spots done,
> > then we'll likely go ahead and repaint whole walls or rooms, but I'm
> > just trying to keep the house from looking like a perpetual
> > construction site while this is going on.
> In that case just pull paint patches all over the wall and tell people
> it's Venetian Plaster. =A0They'll go, "Ooooh!" and you'll wink at the
> wife. =A0;)

Hah. The funny thing is I think we might just do venetian plaster in
the living room :)

nate

Posted by DanG on November 4, 2009, 5:50 pm


You're expecting way too much. If you had the original can of
paint, it would probably not be dead on out in the middle of a
wall. Any touch up painting will always require painting corner
to corner, top to bottom.

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> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:18:28 -0800 (PST), N8N
> wrote:
> >> Red Green wrote:
> >> > Like to add, when touching up even from an original can,
> >> > blend/fog by
> >> > running the brush/roller virtually dry way past the area
> >> > being done.
> >> > Differences are harder to notice.
> >> IME and IMO this is the best solution for the OP assuming
> >> that the new paint
> >> color is pretty close. One can also feather out by diluting
> >> the paint.
> >It's not at all, that's the problem. I've had three different
> >batches
> >of paint mixed and only one was close enough to even try
> >putting it on
> >the wall, and it is clearly different - patches look like
> >shadows.
> I guess I just don't repaint often enough-- or maybe too often--
> but
> in 50 years of home-owning and doing my own painting, I don't
> recall a
> single time that I tried to paint part of a wall-- and only a
> handful
> of times that I painted less than the entire room.

We bought a very old house a couple years ago, and the PO's
repainted
before the sale - and they apparently were big fans of mounting
stuff
on the wall (e.g. mirrors etc.) and were NOT big fans of removing
things like light fixtures, mirrors, switch plates, etc. when
repainting. So for an example, when we had air conditioning
installed
and had the old round thermostat replaced with a new programmable
one,
there was an ugly exposed area of old paint, mounting holes, etc.
left
behind with a big ridge of brush marks showing the outline of the
old
thermostat. Likewise, they'd glued pieces of mirror on the wall
in
the living room to conceal the old electrical boxes for wall
sconces;
when I ripped those down to install new sconces I've got more
ugliness. (but I still have to take the big mirror - mounted like
a
bathroom mirror, with clips - down over the mantel, which will
cause
another big mess-o-ugliness) In each case there's enough brush
marks,
holes, etc. that most of these areas get a skim coat of drywall
mud,
primer, etc.

Once I've got enough of these really egregious trouble spots done,
then we'll likely go ahead and repaint whole walls or rooms, but
I'm
just trying to keep the house from looking like a perpetual
construction site while this is going on.

nate



Posted by SteveB on November 4, 2009, 9:09 pm



> You're expecting way too much. If you had the original can of paint, it
> would probably not be dead on out in the middle of a wall. Any touch up
> painting will always require painting corner to corner, top to bottom.

At last, a reasonable man.



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