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Posted by Frank on November 4, 2009, 12:16 pm
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> >A while back I had to demo a kitchen cabinet to allow a new fridge to be
> >moved in... =A0I was in a time crunch and didn't have time to go to a re=
> >paint store that day so I went to That Orange-Colored Store and had them
> >mix me a quart of paint. =A0I took with me a vent grille that had been
> >painted over to color match. =A0The guy tried, and even wasted a quart o=
n his
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> >first try when it came out too dark (color is a flat white tinted slight=
> >blue) second try looked good in the store but when I painted the wall it
> >ended up slightly more brownish-grey than the rest of the wall. =A0(I al=
> >used almost the whole quart just to cover the area that was behind one
> >large kitchen cabinet...)
> > Unfortunately this @#$@#$% color is on about half the walls in my house=
> > and I have a couple other little areas that I'd like to address (changi=
> > light fixtures in living room and removing mirror over mantel; repainti=
> > ceiling at top of stair landing where it was badly prepped; painting
> > kitchen ceiling where I demo'd an ugly fluorescent fixture and never
> > patched/painted the ceiling) but we're not quite ready to repaint any
> > whole rooms yet. =A0So I would really like to have a couple more quarts=
of
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> > paint matched to the existing so I can keep doing spot repairs as I get
> > motivated and not have the house look all ghetto and have primer spots =
all
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> > over the darn place until whatever room gets a full repaint.
> > Today I had a dentist's appt. in the AM so I left early and hit the
> > closest "real" paint store and brought the same vent grille with me. Th=
> > "matched" it while I was visiting with Dr. Hook and I picked up two qua=
rts
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> > (they used Benjamin Moore base.) =A0I just opened one and spread a litt=
> > paint on the corner of said vent, it looks like a pure white in
> > comparison. =A0Not even anywhere near as close as the paint I got from =
HD.
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> > The few areas I've used the HD paint don't look awful, but it's obvious
> > that there's a paint mismatch. =A0Is that about the best I can hope for=
(in
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> > which case I should go back to HD and get a couple more quarts of the s=
ame
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> > thing I got last time,) or should I take everything back to the real pa=
int
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> > store and let them try again? =A0I realize you can't see what I'm worki=
> > with so you can't really say "that's about as good as it gets, you're
> > being too picky, just deal until you repaint" or "you can do better tha=
> > that, you've just had bad luck with paint guys" (but I guess that's kin=
> > of the feedback I really need)
> > Not sure if posting pics would help, but if it would, I can take a pic =
> > the last little spot I did, around the thermostat on the kitchen wall..=
> > nate
> > --
> > replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
> >http://members.cox.net/njnagel
> Paint is a bitch. =A0Even if you do save those things they put on the top=
of
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> paint cans stating exactly how many parts of which color they put in it, =
you
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> can have another gallon made down the road, and it comes out looking
> different.
> This can be for several reasons:
> The substrate. =A0Putting it on different things. =A0Different brands of
> drywall. =A0Kilz or no Kilz? =A0Primer or no primer? =A0Which primer? =A0=
How long
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> has it been there, and how much UV rays from the sun has lightened it? =
=A0If
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> it is in a kitchen or bath area, how much oil or steam has changed the
> color? =A0Paint looks different after it has soaked into a wall for five =
years
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> than that which is a week old.
> I have kept those little color things, and gone back later and gotten
> EXACTLY the same mix, and painted it on, and it looks different than the
> paint on there. =A0Even clothes fade. =A0Car paint jobs fade.
> NEVER EVER EVER EVER LOOK AT PAINT UNTIL IT HAS DRIED A WEEK. =A0It takes=
that
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> long to get even close to the color it's going to be.
> It's not so much a mismatch, as you can get exactly the same paint mixed =
and
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> it won't match, it has to do with fading and lots of other factors.
> Solutions: =A0Do areas where the mismatching won't be obvious. =A0Repaint=
the
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> whole thing from the get go. =A0Change the color scheme so it don't matte=
> If you are doing remodeling, prime properly, or Kilz, and then, it may ta=
> two or three coats to get it exactly right. =A0Lower expectations - what =
you
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> think is an obvious mismatch won't be noticed by others.
> And lastly, consider the ambient light. =A0Lots of paints and colors look
> different when viewed at 9 AM versus 2 PM. =A0On a sunny day, or a cloudy=
day.
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> HTH, just some things to ponder.
> Steve, who knows paint will drive you batty, but only if you let it.- Hid=
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Good points. The phenomenon of different appearing color in different
light is called metamerism (sic.)
I trust the machine's eye but exact match is impossible with the
metamerism problem.
I recommend, and have done myself, painting the whole wall in the room
that needs it, then any color mismatch with the other walls will not
be as evident.
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> >moved in... =A0I was in a time crunch and didn't have time to go to a re=
> >paint store that day so I went to That Orange-Colored Store and had them
> >mix me a quart of paint. =A0I took with me a vent grille that had been
> >painted over to color match. =A0The guy tried, and even wasted a quart o=