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Painters and Insurance Requirements WendyC88 06-02-2007
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Posted by WendyC88 on June 2, 2007, 11:16 pm
Hello. I am going to be looking for a painter to paint the trim of my
house. What should I look for regarding insurance? My neighbor had someone
fix her roof and he fell off his ladder and broke his arm. The company he
worked for denied his work comp claim stating he is an independent
contractor, so he sued my neighbor for medical and lost time. She went
through hell before he stopped pursuing the claim and I want to be protected
from this. Thanks


Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 3, 2007, 12:31 am

> Hello. I am going to be looking for a painter to paint the trim of my
> house. What should I look for regarding insurance? My neighbor had
> someone fix her roof and he fell off his ladder and broke his arm. The
> company he worked for denied his work comp claim stating he is an
> independent contractor, so he sued my neighbor for medical and lost time.
> She went through hell before he stopped pursuing the claim and I want to
> be protected from this. Thanks

State laws may vary, but a business with employees (may vary in number in
some states) must have workman's comp, thus the "independent contractor"
status that some use. Liability insurance should be a must for any
reputable contractor. The sad reality is that any sleazy contractor can
find a way around most anything.



Posted by dpb on June 3, 2007, 8:43 am
>
>
> > Hello. I am going to be looking for a painter to paint the trim of my
> > house. What should I look for regarding insurance? My neighbor had
> > someone fix her roof and he fell off his ladder and broke his arm. The
> > company he worked for denied his work comp claim stating he is an
> > independent contractor, so he sued my neighbor for medical and lost time.
> > She went through hell before he stopped pursuing the claim and I want to
> > be protected from this. Thanks
>
> State laws may vary, but a business with employees (may vary in number in
> some states) must have workman's comp, thus the "independent contractor"
> status that some use. Liability insurance should be a must for any
> reputable contractor. The sad reality is that any sleazy contractor can
> find a way around most anything.

The potential liability (if any) of the homeowner is also what your
homeowner's policy is for. If there's a problem, give it to them and
they'll handle the scumbucket if it's a scam or attempt to extort.

As Edwin says, if dealing w/ a firm, ensure they have all state and/or
local business licenses required and are up to date w/ workmans' comp
payments and require proof of insurance and bond.

If it's an individual DBA somebody, essentially the same thing holds
with some differences which are dependent on local laws. A check w/
local government on what they require is worthwhile and with BBB and/
or similar locally is good doublecheck, too. Won't necessarily hide
the sleazeball who just hasn't been reported if no bad, but a string
of reports is clear indication to stay away.

After that, references, references, references...

--



Posted by Don Phillipson on June 3, 2007, 9:11 am

> Hello. I am going to be looking for a painter to paint the trim of my
> house. What should I look for regarding insurance? My neighbor had
someone
> fix her roof and he fell off his ladder and broke his arm. The company he
> worked for denied his work comp claim stating he is an independent
> contractor, so he sued my neighbor for medical and lost time. She went
> through hell before he stopped pursuing the claim and I want to be
protected
> from this. Thanks

Require any contractor to provide you a copy
of his current insurance policy (paid up to date.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



Posted by jJim McLaughlin on June 3, 2007, 12:25 pm
Don Phillipson wrote:

>
>
>>Hello. I am going to be looking for a painter to paint the trim of my
>>house. What should I look for regarding insurance? My neighbor had
>
> someone
>
>>fix her roof and he fell off his ladder and broke his arm. The company he
>>worked for denied his work comp claim stating he is an independent
>>contractor, so he sued my neighbor for medical and lost time. She went
>>through hell before he stopped pursuing the claim and I want to be
>
> protected
>
>>from this. Thanks
>
>
> Require any contractor to provide you a copy
> of his current insurance policy (paid up to date.)
>

What you want is a certificate of insurance SENT DIRECTLY TO YOU
BY THE BROKER OR INSURANCE COMPANY, not the contractor. The
certificate of insurance should name you and list your premises as
an additional insuredlocation of he contractor for the duration of the job.

A copy of a policy, or a receipt that the policy was paid for, are each
useless. Policy could have been cancelled by the contractor and
premium refunded.

Anything provided to you by the contractor could be phonied up.

Real contractors have no problem with doing that, and real
brokers or insuance companies have no problem with it either.

If the contractor won't do hat, run like hell.

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