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Painting horror - interior wall. Steven L Umbach 08-22-2005
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Posted by Steven L Umbach on August 22, 2005, 12:30 am


Much to my objections my wife and daughter thought it would be cool to paint
one of her bedroom walls deep dark red. Before I knew what was going on she
went to the HI store and bought some Pittsburg Paint that was apparently
branded just for them because Pittsburg Paint does not show it on their
website but the "guy" told her it was their best stuff they carried at the
store and my believes anyone but me. My wife also bought some white primer
and rolled it on the wall before deciding that I should finish the job.

Just to start off I want to say that I have done a LOT of interior painting
in the past and never had a problem and never had to put on more then two
coats of anything but our colors were all in the neutral color range.

Well I started to roll this stuff on and it was like painting waxed paper. I
got done and it looked like crap with some places locking light and others
dark but their was nothing more I could do until it dried and applied
another coat. I came back a while later and much to my horror there were
more than a few places where this stuff ran and globbed down and in spots.
Now it looks really bad. I have never seen anything like that before and
when I roll paint I don't glob it on but put on a consistent medium coat and
closely examine my job as I go along in the light at an angle to look for
problem areas like too heavy application so I can smooth it out.
Interestingly she bought the same exact paint brand in a medium brown color
and it went on fine?? Another thing about the red stuff is that it took me
forever to stir and shake to get it to be one color.

Has anyone else experienced anything like that. Do you think the paint may
have been defective or that when they mixed it at the store they did
something wrong such as using wrong materials or wrong quantities?? At this
point I am going to go and get some Benjamin Moore or Pratt and Lambert in a
close color, in a non custom color if possible and paint until the color
looks consistent at least. I don't know what to do about the paint that ran
and dried. Maybe I should try to get it off with goof off and a scraper or
would that make matters worse? Any other suggestions are highly appreciated.

I have told her 100 times to buy Benjamin Moore paint but I guess that is
too inconvenient for her. She always gets what the "guy" tells her is best
at whatever store she is buying the paint at. Last time she got Behr at HD
and I showed her how drippy it was and then she says well it was their best
paint. By now you are probably saying why don't you go get the paint your
self stupid ass. I would but my wife spends dozens and dozens of hours
shopping for paint and can't make up her mind and then asks me what I like
but then does not like what I pick out so I avoid the whole shopping end of
buying paint and just do the production part. Anyhow the good news is I
think she is finally going to listen to me about what brand paint to buy and
where to get it at. --- Steve





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Posted by siralfred on August 22, 2005, 6:14 am


As the previous reply said, red pigmented paint is especially
transparent and requires more coats than other colors. Even the best
red paint will require extra work, but what you're describing sounds
like it's defective (or is Pittsburgh as bad as I've heard?). The most
important thing for red (and other dark colors), which "the guy" should
have told your wife, is to use a dark primer - either gray or tinted
with the red you're using.
For removing the drips, scrape first - but gently - and then try to
smooth with a moist sponge, rinsing often. Let dry at least 24 hrs
before starting over.
Try finding a paint specialist in your area and direct your better half
there next time. At least "the guy" will be more likely to know what
he's talking about, and selling a decent quality product. Good Luck!



Posted by Steven L Umbach on August 22, 2005, 1:32 pm


Thanks for that info.

I was able to remove the drips for the most part with a single edge razor
blade in a holder that you use to scrape glass but instead of cutting into
the drips I scraped over them at different angles.

My wife went to the Benjamin Moore paint store. The first thing the "lady"
said was that we must be using Behr paint from the description. My wife said
no that it was Pittsburg paint and she was surprised because she said they
rarely get a complaint about Pittsburg paints. Then she said we could have
gotten a bad batch or incorrectly mixed at the store where we bought it.

We got some BM primer that went on like a dream, completely covering the old
mess and leaving a dark pink color. I will be trying the BM paint in a
couple hours. They told my wife to expect to take up to four coats for the
color we are using. --- Steve


> As the previous reply said, red pigmented paint is especially
> transparent and requires more coats than other colors. Even the best
> red paint will require extra work, but what you're describing sounds
> like it's defective (or is Pittsburgh as bad as I've heard?). The most
> important thing for red (and other dark colors), which "the guy" should
> have told your wife, is to use a dark primer - either gray or tinted
> with the red you're using.
> For removing the drips, scrape first - but gently - and then try to
> smooth with a moist sponge, rinsing often. Let dry at least 24 hrs
> before starting over.
> Try finding a paint specialist in your area and direct your better half
> there next time. At least "the guy" will be more likely to know what
> he's talking about, and selling a decent quality product. Good Luck!
>




Posted by Norminn on August 22, 2005, 11:02 pm




Steven L Umbach wrote:
> Thanks for that info.
>
> I was able to remove the drips for the most part with a single edge razor
> blade in a holder that you use to scrape glass but instead of cutting into
> the drips I scraped over them at different angles.
>
> My wife went to the Benjamin Moore paint store. The first thing the "lady"
> said was that we must be using Behr paint from the description. My wife said
> no that it was Pittsburg paint and she was surprised because she said they
> rarely get a complaint about Pittsburg paints. Then she said we could have
> gotten a bad batch or incorrectly mixed at the store where we bought it.

It should be mixed immediately before use, even though it was mixed at
the store.



Posted by Prometheus on August 22, 2005, 6:33 am


On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:30:27 -0500, "Steven L Umbach"

>Well I started to roll this stuff on and it was like painting waxed paper. I
>got done and it looked like crap with some places locking light and others
>dark but their was nothing more I could do until it dried and applied
>another coat. I came back a while later and much to my horror there were
>more than a few places where this stuff ran and globbed down and in spots.
>Now it looks really bad. I have never seen anything like that before and
>when I roll paint I don't glob it on but put on a consistent medium coat and
>closely examine my job as I go along in the light at an angle to look for
>problem areas like too heavy application so I can smooth it out.
>Interestingly she bought the same exact paint brand in a medium brown color
>and it went on fine?? Another thing about the red stuff is that it took me
>forever to stir and shake to get it to be one color.

It may have been partially the paint's fault, but that's a problem
I've experienced almost every time I've used red, regardless of brand.
I generally expect to apply 3-4 coats minium to get an even coat of
that color.


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