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Posted by Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names on June 8, 2008, 7:22 am
We are building a new house -- should start moving in at the end of
June.
We built a 26X30 detached garage and a 20X16 shed/workshop, each of
which has a concrete slab floor. We have been using the shed and
garage to store materials, prime and paint shutters, screen doors,
etc. all the while protecting the new concrete slabs with drop cloths
and plastic, so, the slabs are clean, new concrete.
Before we start parking in the garage and moving into the shed/
workshop, we want to paint the concrete slabs using the epoxy garage
floor paints that we see in Home Depot, Lowe's, and elsewhere. On the
'net I found several products -- Muscle Gloss, Epoxy-Coat, and others.
We want to:
-- paint the floors
-- put some kind of non-slip grit in the paint
-- paint a line on the floor at the front of the garage where the
concrete forms a lip to let the garage doors seal; this line will be
safety yellow to warn people not to trip over the concrete lip.
Because this is new concrete, I'm planning to pressure wash it, let it
dry, then apply the epoxy coat per instructions.
Has anyone else done this and what do you recommend??
-- Do I need to etch the new concrete?
-- What product did you use?
-- How is the product you used standing up to wear?
-- How do/did you apply the non-slip granules into the paint?
Thanks.
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on June 8, 2008, 9:37 am
On Jun 8, 7:22=EF=BF=BDam, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
> We are building a new house -- should start moving in at the end of
> June.
>
> We built a 26X30 detached garage and a 20X16 shed/workshop, each of
> which has a concrete slab floor. =EF=BF=BDWe have been using the shed and
> garage to store materials, prime and paint shutters, screen doors,
> etc. all the while protecting the new concrete slabs with drop cloths
> and plastic, so, the slabs are clean, new concrete.
>
> Before we start parking in the garage and moving into the shed/
> workshop, we want to paint the concrete slabs using the epoxy garage
> floor paints that we see in Home Depot, Lowe's, and elsewhere. =EF=BF=BDOn=
the
> 'net I found several products -- Muscle Gloss, Epoxy-Coat, and others.
>
> We want to:
> -- paint the floors
> -- put some kind of non-slip grit in the paint
> -- paint a line on the floor at the front of the garage where the
> concrete forms a lip to let the garage doors seal; this line will be
> safety yellow to warn people not to trip over the concrete lip.
>
> Because this is new concrete, I'm planning to pressure wash it, let it
> dry, then apply the epoxy coat per instructions.
>
> Has anyone else done this and what do you recommend??
>
> -- Do I need to etch the new concrete?
> -- What product did you use?
> -- How is the product you used standing up to wear?
> -- How do/did you apply the non-slip granules into the paint?
>
> Thanks.
you way better of just sealing the concrete, than painting anything on
it.
sooner or later paint always wears or fails......
it will be a forever maintence issue.
made worse by hot tires on garage floor.
better off just sealing with thompsons water seal heavily so oil
stains cant get absorbed into concrete, and forget about the colorful
floor.
with the lip at the door can water that comes off vehicles or spills
still drain out of the garage?
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Posted by ransley on June 8, 2008, 10:27 am
On Jun 8, 6:22=A0am, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
> We are building a new house -- should start moving in at the end of
> June.
>
> We built a 26X30 detached garage and a 20X16 shed/workshop, each of
> which has a concrete slab floor. =A0We have been using the shed and
> garage to store materials, prime and paint shutters, screen doors,
> etc. all the while protecting the new concrete slabs with drop cloths
> and plastic, so, the slabs are clean, new concrete.
>
> Before we start parking in the garage and moving into the shed/
> workshop, we want to paint the concrete slabs using the epoxy garage
> floor paints that we see in Home Depot, Lowe's, and elsewhere. =A0On the
> 'net I found several products -- Muscle Gloss, Epoxy-Coat, and others.
>
> We want to:
> -- paint the floors
> -- put some kind of non-slip grit in the paint
> -- paint a line on the floor at the front of the garage where the
> concrete forms a lip to let the garage doors seal; this line will be
> safety yellow to warn people not to trip over the concrete lip.
>
> Because this is new concrete, I'm planning to pressure wash it, let it
> dry, then apply the epoxy coat per instructions.
>
> Has anyone else done this and what do you recommend??
>
> -- Do I need to etch the new concrete?
> -- What product did you use?
> -- How is the product you used standing up to wear?
> -- How do/did you apply the non-slip granules into the paint?
>
> Thanks.
Im sure product label states acid etching. 15 or so years ago I used
H.C. concrete stain, the oil base from Sherwin Williams, Stain doesnt
peel, its worn away in heavy areas but I can just reclean and acid
clean and recoat someday. Paints do peel.
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Posted by Phisherman on June 8, 2008, 11:43 am
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 04:22:16 -0700 (PDT), "Kickin' Ass and Takin'
>We are building a new house -- should start moving in at the end of
>June.
>
>We built a 26X30 detached garage and a 20X16 shed/workshop, each of
>which has a concrete slab floor. We have been using the shed and
>garage to store materials, prime and paint shutters, screen doors,
>etc. all the while protecting the new concrete slabs with drop cloths
>and plastic, so, the slabs are clean, new concrete.
>
>Before we start parking in the garage and moving into the shed/
>workshop, we want to paint the concrete slabs using the epoxy garage
>floor paints that we see in Home Depot, Lowe's, and elsewhere. On the
>'net I found several products -- Muscle Gloss, Epoxy-Coat, and others.
>
>We want to:
>-- paint the floors
>-- put some kind of non-slip grit in the paint
>-- paint a line on the floor at the front of the garage where the
>concrete forms a lip to let the garage doors seal; this line will be
>safety yellow to warn people not to trip over the concrete lip.
>
>Because this is new concrete, I'm planning to pressure wash it, let it
>dry, then apply the epoxy coat per instructions.
>
>Has anyone else done this and what do you recommend??
>
>-- Do I need to etch the new concrete?
>-- What product did you use?
>-- How is the product you used standing up to wear?
>-- How do/did you apply the non-slip granules into the paint?
>
>Thanks.
I don't know any painted garage floor that did not eventually peel, so
I recommend against it. I used a clear epoxy on my concrete basement
and garage in 1993 and it has held up well. The surface is much
easier to sweep and keep clean. It stunk up the house for a couple
days, so it's better to plan for a day when you can have the windows
open for full ventilation. Cover your fish tanks for awhile.
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Posted by Robert Neville on June 8, 2008, 4:05 pm
>I don't know any painted garage floor that did not eventually peel, so
>I recommend against it. I used a clear epoxy on my concrete basement
>and garage in 1993 and it has held up well. The surface is much
>easier to sweep and keep clean. It stunk up the house for a couple
>days, so it's better to plan for a day when you can have the windows
>open for full ventilation. Cover your fish tanks for awhile.
I've done this twice now and both times it's turned out very well with the
surface looking almost new for over 10 years. A few comments:
- As with most paint jobs, prep is 90% of the work. Cut corners on any of the
required steps and you'll regret it almost immediately.
- You need to make sure the concrete has cured for at least 30 days - 60 is
better.
- Avoid the big box consumer products and get a good industrial, non-water based
two part epoxy. I like Benjamin Moore M36/M37, but there are others.
- Shot blasting the surface is recommenced for max adhesion, but I've had good
success with acid etching. Muratic acid is nasty stuff, so make sure you vent
and rinse appropriately.
- If you live in a wet area, you should put down a primer coat before using the
epoxy. Water rising up through concrete will lift the epoxy over time.
- If you live in a wet or snowy climate, grit is recommended. It's not sand, use
the right stuff and don't overdo it or you'll have a hard time keeping the floor
clean. All the grit needs to do is raise the shoes off the floor enough to
prevent hydroplaning. You don't need or want a sandpaper surface.
- Commercial painters use a squeegee and back roll with a roller to get the
stuff down before it sets up, but I just use a roller, work in sections defined
by the concrete sections and work quickly.
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