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Paver patio over top a drainage pipe??? Geo 05-23-2007
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Posted by Geo on May 23, 2007, 3:58 pm
I'm in the process of digging out a hole for a paver patio that we're
beginning. It's outside of a walkout basement. I just removed an old
slab of cement outside the walkout door and as I was digging about 10"
down a water puddle formed and I ran in to a drainage pipe. This pipe
appears to run parallel to the house right at the footer. The water
does not go above the top of that pipe. I presume it's ends up
draining in to the sump, but still there is a pool of water there and
I'm not sure what to do at this point. Can I safely cover the opening
of the pipe, lay some gravel on top and pave over the top of this
pipe? Or, what is another solution? Thanks in advance for the help.

Geo


Posted by Mark on May 24, 2007, 6:17 am
Probably need a little more info - like where you live, what the weather
conditions have been, etc. Pooling water only 10 inches below grade and
near the foundation is a problem in most places. If the pipe is a
foundation drain, it doesn't sound like it's doing its job.


> I'm in the process of digging out a hole for a paver patio that we're
> beginning. It's outside of a walkout basement. I just removed an old
> slab of cement outside the walkout door and as I was digging about 10"
> down a water puddle formed and I ran in to a drainage pipe. This pipe
> appears to run parallel to the house right at the footer. The water
> does not go above the top of that pipe. I presume it's ends up
> draining in to the sump, but still there is a pool of water there and
> I'm not sure what to do at this point. Can I safely cover the opening
> of the pipe, lay some gravel on top and pave over the top of this
> pipe? Or, what is another solution? Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> Geo
>



Posted by Geo on May 24, 2007, 8:41 am
> Probably need a little more info - like where you live, what the weather
> conditions have been, etc. Pooling water only 10 inches below grade and
> near the foundation is a problem in most places. If the pipe is a
> foundation drain, it doesn't sound like it's doing its job.
>

In SW Ohio near Dayton. I'll say this, when it rains my sump works
fine so there is drainage to the sump. I guess it's time to call the
plumber.

>
>
> > I'm in the process of digging out a hole for a paver patio that we're
> > beginning. It's outside of a walkout basement. I just removed an old
> > slab of cement outside the walkout door and as I was digging about 10"
> > down a water puddle formed and I ran in to a drainage pipe. This pipe
> > appears to run parallel to the house right at the footer. The water
> > does not go above the top of that pipe. I presume it's ends up
> > draining in to the sump, but still there is a pool of water there and
> > I'm not sure what to do at this point. Can I safely cover the opening
> > of the pipe, lay some gravel on top and pave over the top of this
> > pipe? Or, what is another solution? Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> > Geo


Posted by Geo on May 24, 2007, 9:08 am
> Probably need a little more info - like where you live, what the weather
> conditions have been, etc. Pooling water only 10 inches below grade and
> near the foundation is a problem in most places. If the pipe is a
> foundation drain, it doesn't sound like it's doing its job.
>
>
>
> > I'm in the process of digging out a hole for a paver patio that we're
> > beginning. It's outside of a walkout basement. I just removed an old
> > slab of cement outside the walkout door and as I was digging about 10"
> > down a water puddle formed and I ran in to a drainage pipe. This pipe
> > appears to run parallel to the house right at the footer. The water
> > does not go above the top of that pipe. I presume it's ends up
> > draining in to the sump, but still there is a pool of water there and
> > I'm not sure what to do at this point. Can I safely cover the opening
> > of the pipe, lay some gravel on top and pave over the top of this
> > pipe? Or, what is another solution? Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> > Geo

In SW Ohio near Dayton. I'll say this, when it rains my sump works
fine so there is drainage to the sump. I guess it's time to call the
plumber.

Just an additional note - the water that is pooling is below the floor
level of the basement. It's at that footer level about where the
drain tile is.


Posted by EXT on May 24, 2007, 12:19 pm
Dayton, Ohio, don't you guys get real winter there? A foundation and
drainage for the foundation should not be merely 10" below grade. Frost
penetration must go deeper than that! It is possibly the drainage pipe for
your eavestrough or gutter and takes the water, as mentioned earlier, to a
low spot for drainage and that the exit for the water is plugged probably
with leaves and other trash that fell on the roof and got washed down.

Try digging a hole across the pipe every 10 feet and follow where it goes,
OR you may be able to use a strong wire coathanger to probe for it, if it is
only 10" down. You need to find where it starts and where it finishes and
fix the drainage problem.

> I'm in the process of digging out a hole for a paver patio that we're
> beginning. It's outside of a walkout basement. I just removed an old
> slab of cement outside the walkout door and as I was digging about 10"
> down a water puddle formed and I ran in to a drainage pipe. This pipe
> appears to run parallel to the house right at the footer. The water
> does not go above the top of that pipe. I presume it's ends up
> draining in to the sump, but still there is a pool of water there and
> I'm not sure what to do at this point. Can I safely cover the opening
> of the pipe, lay some gravel on top and pave over the top of this
> pipe? Or, what is another solution? Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> Geo
>



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