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Persistent roof leak Donna 06-03-2006
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Posted by Donna on June 3, 2006, 6:34 pm


>> Advice, please? We've already spent a fortune not repairing this
>> problem. Before I call another roofer, I want to be able to be sure that
>> this is the LAST time I'll be replacing the damned wallboard.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>
>>
> Hi,
> Priority one, cover the roof with tarp or ssosmething to prevent water
> leak. And find the origin of leak. Sounds like you have not pinpointed it.
> Once done rest is easy. Water seepage spreading all over the place
> it is kinda detective work.


Thanks. Quick follow up question, in case you know... isn't the point of
asphalt shingles to waterproof the roof deck? Why is water pouring down
the nail holes, if the roof shingles are new, and intact? I've had two
different roofers up there over the last two years, and I was just up there
myself, and the shingles, indeed the roof itself, directly over the leak, is
immaculate. (That's why I thought that re-flashing would have solved the
problem.)

Thanks again.

Donna




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Posted by DanG on June 3, 2006, 3:42 pm
I know this isn't fun.

If you want to do your own diagnostics, here is how I would
proceed. Wait until everything is basically dry. Do not cover up
your view of the bottom of the roof. Use a garden hose and rig up
some way to control where it is directing water. Start below your
apparent leak. Allow water to run for 30 minutes at each set. Do
not force water up under the shingles, let it flood downward just
as rain water would. Gradually move the water hose up hill.
Monitor the ceiling you have open. When the roof begins to leak
you know exactly what is allowing the water in.

I do not recognize your description of a purple plastic strip.
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> The briefest version of the problem is this: We've had damp
> wallboard in the bathroom (part of the master bedroom addition)
> since we bought the house two years ago. The guy we bought the
> house from was a builder of some sort (not a good sort,
> evidently) and put the addition on himself, the summer we bought
> the house. Repair guy 1 said the dampness was from an ice dam,
> he replaced the wallboard. It got wet again. Roofer two said
> that it was either seepage from the fan vent (which he repaired)
> or water coming from the old roof section on the second floor,
> running under the roof of the addition. So we put on another
> roof over the second floor - again, a reasonable suggestion,
> because that roof was getting really old. He also replaced the
> wallboard. It took a few more months to get damp, but it got
> wet again. We called Roofer 2 back, and he suggested we
> re-flash the addition, since we've had other problems with
> leaking around the addition's flashing. So we did that. The
> wallboard not only didn't dry out, it completely fell in.
> (That was the short version. The long version is the same, but
> with a lot of swearing.)
>
> Ok, so it's been raining for about three days. My husband and I
> pulled down all of the wallboard in the bathroom, pulled out the
> insulation, and now we're looking directly at the underside of
> the 1.5 year old roof. I'm seeing wet wood (the flat sheets of
> roofing wood are wet - the stuff that looks like particleboard,
> but isn't), lots of water dripping through nail holes, and
> something that looks like a purple plastic 6 inch by 24 inch
> thing, nailed to the underside of the roof. Water is dripping
> out of that, too.
>
> What the hell am I looking at? What is the plastic thing? Why
> is it there? Why is water coming through nail holes, if the
> wood has new asphalt shingles and new flashing?
>
> Advice, please? We've already spent a fortune not repairing
> this problem. Before I call another roofer, I want to be able to
> be sure that this is the LAST time I'll be replacing the damned
> wallboard.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Donna
>
>
>



Posted by Donna on June 3, 2006, 6:40 pm

>I know this isn't fun.
>
> If you want to do your own diagnostics, here is how I would proceed. Wait
> until everything is basically dry. Do not cover up your view of the
> bottom of the roof. Use a garden hose and rig up some way to control
> where it is directing water. Start below your apparent leak. Allow water
> to run for 30 minutes at each set. Do not force water up under the
> shingles, let it flood downward just as rain water would. Gradually move
> the water hose up hill. Monitor the ceiling you have open. When the roof
> begins to leak you know exactly what is allowing the water in.
>
> I do not recognize your description of a purple plastic strip.

Ok, thanks for the advice, Dan. We'll do that. I really appreciate the
detailed instructions. To say that I'm in a little bit over my head with
this problem is a bit of an understatement. As someone else just posted,
there is no point in calling in another roofer to guess at the problem: I
really have to figure out what the problem is before I call in the pros to
fix it.

Honestly, I saw that purple plastic sheet, and I had this sinking feeling.
What the hell was the original homeowner thinking? (Ok, other than "Gee, I
better sell this house before becomes obvious that I tacked on the addition
in a weekend")

Thanks again.

Donna

Donna



Posted by ameijers on June 3, 2006, 7:26 pm

>
> >I know this isn't fun.
Can't see from here, but my hunch is that roofer 2 was on the right track-
if water is under the shingles, it is likely coming in at ridge, or at a
gable end, or (most likely) from where it meets the original house. The
flashing that was replaced- does it run up under siding of the second floor,
by any chance? I have seen a wet upper wall feed water under flashing into a
lower level roof. If upper wall was wet, but on the outside of the sheathing
under the siding, that could be the water source. Even if upper roof was
replaced, mis-installed siding, or a badly-flashed window, can get water
behind the siding.

That 6x24 plastic thing sounds like some sort of spacer to keep soffit vents
open when insulation is blown in, or batts are rolled out. Never seen them
in purple, but I have seen pink and blue ones.

Can you post pics to a web site or binaries group? A picture is truly worth
a thousand words for stuff like this. An establishing shot of that end of
house, a picture of the new flashing, and a picture of the leaky inside of
the roof. And like Arlo Guthrie taught us, circles and arrows and a
paragraph on the back of each one, explaining what is going on.

aem sends...


Posted by on June 3, 2006, 4:07 pm
Donna wrote:
> Advice, please? We've already spent a fortune not repairing this problem.
> Before I call another roofer, I want to be able to be sure that this is the
> LAST time I'll be replacing the damned wallboard.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Donna

Hi, Donna.

Invest much more wisely. Contract with someone to solve the source of
the problem- not hack at what seems to be the likely source. Payment is
to seek out all sources of water infiltration & seal them to adequately
protect all materials of and in house. In accordance with local &
national building codes. Payment is contingent on completion of work-
you might say on passing test of major storm, or some garden-hose test.

Of course, DO NOT close up interior walls until infiltration is
properly done with, and all lumber has dried out for some time. Chill
out on the wallboard. In fact, in general.

You could try your hand doing something useful. Much more fun than
cussing, and MUCH more attractive.

J


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