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Pex plumbing Tim 09-10-2008
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Posted by Tim on September 10, 2008, 12:36 pm


Hello again,
I am continuing to gather info for the new house,this time
concerning plumbing. I had been thinking about the Manablock
system,basically a plastic(PVC) manifold known as a "home run" system
in which there are seperate shut off valves for every outlet and, I
assume, fixture. The piping is flexible Pex tubing,which seems like a
good idea,but the Manablock sys. seems to use a whole bunch of
tubing.
I spoke with a guy from a plumbing supply place today who said that
many plumbers today are using the Wirsbo system which utilizes 3/4"
trunk lines to smaller manifolds that I assume are located close to
the areas they will supply,branching off into 1/2" or 3/8" tubing to
supply the end fixture.
Does anybody have experience w/ these systems,or can you lead me to
a resource for more info,perhaps a newsgroup such as this(I looked but
didn't find a plumbing newsgroup) Thanks again for the info.

Tim

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Posted by RicodJour on September 10, 2008, 12:58 pm


> =A0 Hello again,
> =A0 =A0I am continuing to gather info for the new house,this time
> concerning plumbing. I had been thinking about the Manablock
> system,basically a plastic(PVC) manifold known as a "home run" system
> in which there are seperate shut off valves for every outlet and, I
> assume, fixture. The piping is flexible Pex tubing,which seems like a
> good idea,but the Manablock sys. seems to use a whole bunch of
> tubing.
> =A0 I spoke with a guy from a plumbing supply place today who said that
> many plumbers today are using the Wirsbo system which utilizes 3/4"
> trunk lines to smaller manifolds that I assume are located close to
> the areas they will supply,branching off into 1/2" or 3/8" tubing to
> supply the end fixture.
> =A0 Does anybody have experience w/ these systems,or can you lead me to
> a resource for more info,perhaps a newsgroup such as this(I looked but
> didn't find a plumbing newsgroup) =A0 =A0Thanks again for the info.

http://www.toolbase.org/Design-Construction-Guides/Plumbing/pex-design-guid=
e

R

Posted by Tim on September 11, 2008, 10:48 am


>
>
>
>
>
> > =A0 Hello again,
> > =A0 =A0I am continuing to gather info for the new house,this time
> > concerning plumbing. I had been thinking about the Manablock
> > system,basically a plastic(PVC) manifold known as a "home run" system
> > in which there are seperate shut off valves for every outlet and, I
> > assume, fixture. The piping is flexible Pex tubing,which seems like a
> > good idea,but the Manablock sys. seems to use a whole bunch of
> > tubing.
> > =A0 I spoke with a guy from a plumbing supply place today who said that
> > many plumbers today are using the Wirsbo system which utilizes 3/4"
> > trunk lines to smaller manifolds that I assume are located close to
> > the areas they will supply,branching off into 1/2" or 3/8" tubing to
> > supply the end fixture.
> > =A0 Does anybody have experience w/ these systems,or can you lead me to
> > a resource for more info,perhaps a newsgroup such as this(I looked but
> > didn't find a plumbing newsgroup) =A0 =A0Thanks again for the info.
>
> http://www.toolbase.org/Design-Construction-Guides/Plumbing/pex-desig...
>
> R- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Rico,
Thanks for the link;lotsa good info. I am now thinking of going with
the Uponor/Wisbro system and a trunk and branch config. Uses less
pipe,better fittings and warranty,and it seems to me one would want
shut off valves near the fixture (as opposed to a home run sys) should
a leak or problem occur. Appreciate the info man.
=20
Tim

Posted by BobK207 on September 11, 2008, 4:17 pm


>
>
>
>
> > > =A0 Hello again,
> > > =A0 =A0I am continuing to gather info for the new house,this time
> > > concerning plumbing. I had been thinking about the Manablock
> > > system,basically a plastic(PVC) manifold known as a "home run" system
> > > in which there are seperate shut off valves for every outlet and, I
> > > assume, fixture. The piping is flexible Pex tubing,which seems like a
> > > good idea,but the Manablock sys. seems to use a whole bunch of
> > > tubing.
> > > =A0 I spoke with a guy from a plumbing supply place today who said th=
at
> > > many plumbers today are using the Wirsbo system which utilizes 3/4"
> > > trunk lines to smaller manifolds that I assume are located close to
> > > the areas they will supply,branching off into 1/2" or 3/8" tubing to
> > > supply the end fixture.
> > > =A0 Does anybody have experience w/ these systems,or can you lead me =
to
> > > a resource for more info,perhaps a newsgroup such as this(I looked bu=
t
> > > didn't find a plumbing newsgroup) =A0 =A0Thanks again for the info.
>
> >http://www.toolbase.org/Design-Construction-Guides/Plumbing/pex-desig...
>
> > R- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> =A0 Rico,
> =A0 Thanks for the link;lotsa good info. I am now thinking of going with
> the Uponor/Wisbro system and a trunk and branch config. =A0Uses less
> pipe,better fittings and warranty,and it seems to me one would want
> shut off valves near the fixture (as opposed to a home run sys) should
> a leak or problem occur. Appreciate the info man.
>
> Tim

Tim-

My home run systems have manifold shutoffs AND fixture angle stops.

In a home run system the PEX is continuous from manifold to angle
stop.

I used the Pro-PEX brass fittings..hard to beat those.

Gotta have fixture angle stops....manifold shutoffs are a nice extra
feature.

branch and main system has a lot more fittings & connections

Home run only has a connection at the manifold & the angle stops. My
2 bath, kitchen & laundry only had 32 "expansions"

A branch & main will have a lot more and they're be all over the
place. Branch & main hot water waits are longer & flow variations can
be worse.

cheers
Bob

Posted by Oren on September 10, 2008, 1:10 pm


On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:36:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim

> Hello again,
> I am continuing to gather info for the new house,this time
>concerning plumbing. I had been thinking about the Manablock
>system,basically a plastic(PVC) manifold known as a "home run" system
>in which there are seperate shut off valves for every outlet and, I
>assume, fixture. The piping is flexible Pex tubing,which seems like a
>good idea,but the Manablock sys. seems to use a whole bunch of
>tubing.
> I spoke with a guy from a plumbing supply place today who said that
>many plumbers today are using the Wirsbo system which utilizes 3/4"
>trunk lines to smaller manifolds that I assume are located close to
>the areas they will supply,branching off into 1/2" or 3/8" tubing to
>supply the end fixture.
> Does anybody have experience w/ these systems,or can you lead me to
>a resource for more info,perhaps a newsgroup such as this(I looked but
>didn't find a plumbing newsgroup) Thanks again for the info.
>
>Tim

I have a Manablock system. The home is 11 years old and not a single
problem so far. No leaks/breaks, etc..

Here is enough information to keep you busy awhile (*.pdf library).

http://www.vanguard.ca/litlib.html


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