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Phone wiring question: RJ11 to RJ45 CraigT 10-14-2006
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Posted by Mark Lloyd on October 15, 2006, 1:34 pm


On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:08:26 -0500, Jim Redelfs

>
>> Expandable cordless phones are still a good idea. I see some for
>> sale that allow up to 10 handsets (I think Wal-Mart has one for about
>> $100 with 3 handsets and you can add up to 7 more for $30 each).
>
>A houseful of cordless phones driven by VOIP.
>
>Now *THAT'S* flaky. (Or likely to be.)
>
>It could be worse: It could all be driven by satellite receiver.
>

Satellite internet cannot support VOIP, because of excessive latency.
It takes over 600mS for the signal to get through (considering the
distance to synchronous orbit).

>Now that's REALLY flaky.
>

I think you can call people but not talk to them. You might hear them
complaining about that.

>You'd be surprised at how many users soon reject the foibles of VOIP and
>return to an old-fashioned land line.

I considered getting VOIP, but was worried about quality and
reliability. The POTS system is very reliable. Cable has more outages.
Instead of the highly reliable phone line, you get a not-so-reliable
ISP and a less-than-reliable VOIP provider.
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reason is no longer applicable."

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Posted by on October 15, 2006, 8:35 pm



> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:08:26 -0500, Jim Redelfs
>
>>
>>> Expandable cordless phones are still a good idea. I see some for
>>> sale that allow up to 10 handsets (I think Wal-Mart has one for about
>>> $100 with 3 handsets and you can add up to 7 more for $30 each).
>>
>>A houseful of cordless phones driven by VOIP.
>>
>>Now *THAT'S* flaky. (Or likely to be.)
>>
>>It could be worse: It could all be driven by satellite receiver.
>>
>
> Satellite internet cannot support VOIP, because of excessive latency.
> It takes over 600mS for the signal to get through (considering the
> distance to synchronous orbit).
>
>>Now that's REALLY flaky.
>>
Uh, mebbe not 'residential grade' internet-over-sat, but commercial grade
internet over sat supports it okay. I know, we use it at several sites. The
problems is has aren't due to the sat connection per se, but just due to too
many hops. Google 'Tachyon' for specifics.

aem sends....



Posted by Jim Redelfs on October 16, 2006, 12:04 am



> Google 'Tachyon' for specifics.

Hehehehehe! Thank-you, Geordi!
--
:)
JR

Posted by zxcvbob on October 15, 2006, 1:18 am


CraigT wrote:
> I plan on installing a VOIP setup in my house.
>
> The problem is that the phone wiring that enters the house is 8 conductor
> and is hardwired to the phone distribution center. So, I figure I can break
> into that incoming line and install a couple of cat5 8 conductor female
> plugs on the two severed ends and can use a cat5 patch cord to connect them
> if I ever want to go back to the teleco. But, that would only happen if I
> sell the house.
>
> The question I have is: Can I plug in a normal rj11 modular plug (coming
> from the modem) into the female rj45 jack that I'll be installing upstream
> from the distribution center and expect those 4 conductors in the plug to be
> aligned with the appropriate conductors in the rj45 jack? The phone modem
> only has rj11 plugs.
>
>
> BTW-I know I'll only be able to hook up one phone (an expandable wireless
> system) to this setup. I just want to make my setup easy to undo when I
> move.
>


Yes, an RJ11 plug will fit in an RJ45 socket. The center pair of an
RJ45 jack is reserved for telephone, even though it's seldom used that
way. It's up to you to wire it up.

Bob

Posted by Mark Lloyd on October 15, 2006, 1:37 pm


wrote:

>CraigT wrote:
>> I plan on installing a VOIP setup in my house.
>>
>> The problem is that the phone wiring that enters the house is 8 conductor
>> and is hardwired to the phone distribution center. So, I figure I can break
>> into that incoming line and install a couple of cat5 8 conductor female
>> plugs on the two severed ends and can use a cat5 patch cord to connect them
>> if I ever want to go back to the teleco. But, that would only happen if I
>> sell the house.
>>
>> The question I have is: Can I plug in a normal rj11 modular plug (coming
>> from the modem) into the female rj45 jack that I'll be installing upstream
>> from the distribution center and expect those 4 conductors in the plug to be
>> aligned with the appropriate conductors in the rj45 jack? The phone modem
>> only has rj11 plugs.
>>
>>
>> BTW-I know I'll only be able to hook up one phone (an expandable wireless
>> system) to this setup. I just want to make my setup easy to undo when I
>> move.
>>
>
>
>Yes, an RJ11 plug will fit in an RJ45 socket. The center pair of an
>RJ45 jack is reserved for telephone, even though it's seldom used that
>way. It's up to you to wire it up.
>
>Bob

I've often heard that it's not a good idea to have telephone and
ethernet in the same cable. That's why some people install TWO cat5
cables everywhere. The wire assignments (different pins for ethernet
and phone) help prevent damage caused by plugging something in wrong.
--
71 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"God was invented by man for a reason, that
reason is no longer applicable."

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