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Posted by CraigT on October 15, 2006, 12:39 pm
>
>> CraigT wrote:
>>> I plan on installing a VOIP setup in my house.
>>>
>>> The problem is that the phone wiring that enters the house is 8
>>> conductor and is hardwired to the phone distribution center. So, I
>>> figure I can break into that incoming line and install a couple of
>>> cat5 8 conductor female plugs on the two severed ends and can use a
>>> cat5 patch cord to connect them if I ever want to go back to the
>>> teleco. But, that would only happen if I sell the house.
>>>
>>> The question I have is: Can I plug in a normal rj11 modular plug
>>> (coming from the modem) into the female rj45 jack that I'll be
>>> installing upstream from the distribution center and expect those 4
>>> conductors in the plug to be aligned with the appropriate conductors
>>> in the rj45 jack? The phone modem only has rj11 plugs.
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW-I know I'll only be able to hook up one phone (an expandable
>>> wireless system) to this setup. I just want to make my setup easy to
>>> undo when I move.
>>
>> You're confused. The VoIP adapter sits between your internet connection
>> and the telephone system. The wire that comes OUT of the VoIP box IS a
>> telephone line and should be treated in all ways as another telephone
>> trunk line.
>>
>> In our case, we have three VoIP modems connected to the network router.
>> Each of the outputs from the three VoIP modems then goes to our PBX
>> system, just like the wires from the telephone company do. To the
>> telephone user, they look exactly like an additional telephone line.
>>
> Okay, after reading all this thread, I think I get it- he doesn't have a
> normal residential demarc, with the rj-11 jacks- he has one of those
> aluminum or gray boxes with the brass posts for the 4-pair incoming, that
> also has posts or punchdowns for the runs to all the rooms. Or maybe he
> has a 66 block, with no apparent terminals or ground blocks upstream. Not
> uncommon a few years ago for multi-line or multi-residence service. He
> wants to break the 4-pair telco feed wire, so he can use the inside wiring
> as distribution for his VOIP dial tone from the VOIP box.
>
> Telco will get cranky if OP cuts 'their' wire, if this distribution point
> is in fact their 'demarc'. Proper solution is to get telco out there to
> install a modern demarc with a seperate rj11 for each existing or
> potential pair on the incoming drop. (Like a small apartment building
> would have). Not to mention the additional noise a field-installed rj
> connector is likely to add to the line. Failing that, I would mark, by
> color, which posts the incoming pairs are attached to, via a weatherproof
> sticker inside the lid, and simply disconnect them, and tape the bare
> ends. (There is sometimes a digram in the box- if not, draw one.) I would
> also include a sign saying VOIP is in use, and to NOT reconnect incoming
> service without verifying status with the subscriber. The signage is
> needed if the box is outside the house, because telco will sometimes open
> a demarc on the wrong house, or open all the demarcs to a particular
> pedestal or pole connection if it is damaged or has to be switched out. If
> the box is in the basement or garage, it is still a good idea, since
> somebody else who doesn't understand the VOIP may let them in the house
> while you are away. In fact, a note or sign in the box is a good idea even
> for people with rj11 demarcs, for the same reasons, along with a piece of
> tape over the incoming feed wires or connectors. You never know if the
> next guy to open the box will be up to speed on what is going on.
>
>
> aem sends....
You're right I have a large box inside the house made by OnQ, In it are
housed the the cable TV connections and the telephone distribution. An 8
connector wire enters the house and is hardwired to this distribution center
(line in). It is here I was going to break into the system to hook up the
VOIP modem RJ11 outputs.
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