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Pipe diameter volume TPutmann 07-04-2005
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Posted by Ralph Mowery on July 4, 2005, 8:09 am
Bill you used diameter instead of radius. It is more like 27 sqin for the 6
inch pipe and 12 sqin for the 4 inch pipe not counting the small change.
Also about 48 sqin for the 8 inch pipe. Way more than using 2 of the 4 inch
pipes.

> area= 3.14 x radius x radius. so the 6 inch pipe has cross section
> of 100 sq inches and the two 4 inch pipe have 25 sq inches
> On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 06:21:31 -0500, TPutmann@AmericaOffline.com wrote:
>
> >I want to put a drain pipe under a sidewalk for rain drainage. I am
> >trying to determine the volume of a 6 inch pipe and a 4 inch. I know
> >that one 4 inch wont be enough, but am wondering if TWO 4 inchers
> >carry as much or more water than a 6 inch pipe. I have never been any
> >good at mathematics. I think I have to multiply 4 or 6 by 3.14, but I
> >am not sure. I will either use a 6 inch or two 4 inchers, which ever
> >holds more water. Or I may even go to an 8 incher. Alot of water runs
> >down the hill and keeps putting mud over the sidewalk. I need lots of
> >drainage volume.
> >
> >Can anyone help.
>



Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on July 4, 2005, 8:49 am

> Can anyone help.

Pi r2 That does not show up properly but it is Pi (3.1416) x the radius
squared.



Posted by SJF on July 4, 2005, 7:07 pm
> I want to put a drain pipe under a sidewalk for rain drainage. I am
> trying to determine the volume of a 6 inch pipe and a 4 inch. I know
> that one 4 inch wont be enough, but am wondering if TWO 4 inchers
> carry as much or more water than a 6 inch pipe. I have never been any
> good at mathematics. I think I have to multiply 4 or 6 by 3.14, but I
> am not sure. I will either use a 6 inch or two 4 inchers, which ever
> holds more water. Or I may even go to an 8 incher. Alot of water runs
> down the hill and keeps putting mud over the sidewalk. I need lots of
> drainage volume.
>
> Can anyone help.

Assume similar pipe types such as tile or concrete and a slope that is the
same for both the 4-inch and the 6-inch pipes.

The maximum (pipe full) flow for the 6-inch pipe will be about 15 percent
greater than for the pair of 4-inch pipes.

I computed on the basis of Manning's Formula. I'll spare you the details
but you can Google it if you're curious. Been a long time since I did a lot
of that as a young engineer so I checked a nomogram in one of my old
handbooks and got verification. Interesting exercise but I had to scrape
through a lot of mental rust.

SJF



Posted by MLD on July 5, 2005, 2:51 pm

> > I want to put a drain pipe under a sidewalk for rain drainage. I am
> > trying to determine the volume of a 6 inch pipe and a 4 inch. I know
> > that one 4 inch wont be enough, but am wondering if TWO 4 inchers
> > carry as much or more water than a 6 inch pipe. I have never been any
> > good at mathematics. I think I have to multiply 4 or 6 by 3.14, but I
> > am not sure. I will either use a 6 inch or two 4 inchers, which ever
> > holds more water. Or I may even go to an 8 incher. Alot of water runs
> > down the hill and keeps putting mud over the sidewalk. I need lots of
> > drainage volume.
> >
> > Can anyone help.
>
> Assume similar pipe types such as tile or concrete and a slope that is the
> same for both the 4-inch and the 6-inch pipes.
>
> The maximum (pipe full) flow for the 6-inch pipe will be about 15 percent
> greater than for the pair of 4-inch pipes.
>
> I computed on the basis of Manning's Formula. I'll spare you the details
> but you can Google it if you're curious. Been a long time since I did a
lot
> of that as a young engineer so I checked a nomogram in one of my old
> handbooks and got verification. Interesting exercise but I had to scrape
> through a lot of mental rust.
>
> SJF
>
Quick calculation ---pi/4 washes out: Area of a 6" pipe-6^2=36. Area of two
4" pipes is 2*4^2=32.
36/32=1.125--so 6' pipe has about 12.5% more flow area than two 4' pipes.
Just agreeing with your numbers--mental exercise for me too <g>
MLD



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