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Plant roots around toilet base. themeanies 06-30-2005
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Posted by themeanies on June 30, 2005, 11:25 am
Long story short:

Out of town, back to find slab leak and 75% of house flooded. The water
actually came up in the master bathroom, leak was in the Kitchen 25ft
away. Got leak fixed and house dried out. Now removing damaged
cabinets and wall to repair. Got the toilet removed from the floor to
find a mass of tiny roots embedded in the wax ring. This is where the
water came up from under the slab. The roots do not appear to be inside
the sewer line, just in the waxring from what I can tell. There is an
external wall nearby, the only plants nearby are roses. Neighbors have
lots of growth in their yard, but they are at least 40ft away. This
root growth is also quite new as we had the toilet up about 3 years ago
to lay ceramic tiles. No roots then.

Any ideas about how to kill this stuff off and remove it? Whats the
usual procedure with this situation?

Thanks,
tM

Real Goods Solar, Inc.
Posted by Joseph Meehan on June 30, 2005, 12:24 pm
themeanies wrote:
> Long story short:
>
> Out of town, back to find slab leak and 75% of house flooded. The
> water actually came up in the master bathroom, leak was in the
> Kitchen 25ft away. Got leak fixed and house dried out. Now removing
> damaged cabinets and wall to repair. Got the toilet removed from the
> floor to find a mass of tiny roots embedded in the wax ring. This is
> where the water came up from under the slab. The roots do not appear
> to be inside the sewer line, just in the waxring from what I can
> tell. There is an external wall nearby, the only plants nearby are
> roses. Neighbors have lots of growth in their yard, but they are at
> least 40ft away. This root growth is also quite new as we had the
> toilet up about 3 years ago to lay ceramic tiles. No roots then.
>
> Any ideas about how to kill this stuff off and remove it? Whats the
> usual procedure with this situation?
>
> Thanks,
> tM

That's a new one. You can do what you want there, but you are not
likely to be able to kill of the roots. To do that would require killing
off the whole plant. Right now you don't know what plant it is. Assuming
the roses are close the the wall, it could be them, but really I would not
expect them to go under the footer and find there way that far, but a large
old rose bush.

Some trees could go 40 feet, and they would be a larger problem. I
suggest you figure this one out before you find that those roots are
damaging your foundation, which they can.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



Posted by David Martel on June 30, 2005, 12:57 pm
tM

I don't follow why the roots are a problem. Think for a minute, the
toilet does not have enough water to cause the amount of damage that you
saw. You had a big leak from somewhere and the roots may be a symptom. Use a
poison on the roots to get rid of them and find out where all that water is
coming from. You may have a leaking pipe in the slab or a drainage problem.

Good luck,
Dave M.



Posted by Joseph Meehan on June 30, 2005, 2:36 pm
David Martel wrote:
> tM
>
> I don't follow why the roots are a problem. Think for a minute, the
> toilet does not have enough water to cause the amount of damage that
> you saw. You had a big leak from somewhere and the roots may be a
> symptom.

I think the OP knows about the leak and it has been fixed

"The water actually came up in the master bathroom, leak was in the
Kitchen 25ft away. Got leak fixed and house dried out."

> Use a poison on the roots to get rid of them

It has been my experience that once roots find a source of water, poison
is only a temporary fix. Maybe this is different in different areas. I
would expect the OP would be interested in any additional information about
what "poison" might work for him. I would like to have offered some advice
on how to address the root issue, but frankly I don't know.

> and find out
> where all that water is coming from. You may have a leaking pipe in
> the slab or a drainage problem.
> Good luck,
> Dave M.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



Posted by David Martel on July 1, 2005, 8:21 am
Joseph,

I'm not much of a plant person but once he has addressed the water issue
I don't see why new roots will grow into a non leaking wax ring. Is your
experience different?

Dave M.



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