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Plumbing chatter SteveB 10-12-2009
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Posted by DerbyDad03 on October 13, 2009, 1:08 pm


On Oct 13, 12:35=A0pm, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:24:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >On Oct 13, 6:19=A0am, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >> >I was taking a shower, when the water started a chattering noise, and=
the
> >> >spray was a pulsed spray. =A0This came on when the Moen twist dial wa=
s in the
> >> >same position for about two minutes. =A0I changed the dial, then retu=
rned it
> >> >to the original temperature position, and it did it again. =A0A littl=
e
> >> >adjustment of the dial makes it go away, but it returns. =A0What's th=
is?
> >> >Steve
> >> The overall water pressure in your house has increased. The chatter is
> >> the anti-scald device trying to deal with too much pressure.
> >> You need to install a water pressure regulator...
> >Or replace a defective one (BTDT)
> >> and set it at around 50 psi.
> >Hopefully, it's preset. Mine was.
> Don't count on it. I've seen several that were labeled as being preset
> to 50 pounds that were pretty far off. I highly recommend VERIFYING
> that the regulator was set correctly by the factory.
> >> The easiest way to check and adjust the pressure is to buy a
> >> water pressure gauge that has a standard garden hose fitting on it.
> >> You can buy these ready made for about $15.
> >True (or less, I paid $12)
> > > Screw it on to any hose bib to use it.
> >To *use* it, that's true, but *which* bib you use might depend on what
> >you want to check.
> >The hose bib at the front of my house is before the PRV and therefore
> >at street pressure.
> Same here. I also have several available in the basement, but all of
> those are after the regulator.
> >The hose bib at the rear of my house is after the PRV and thererfore
> >at "house" pressure.
> >I knew my PRV was bad when they both read about 85 psi.
> >And yes, the chattering went away after I replaced the PRV.- Hide quoted=
text -
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

I too have one at the utility sink that is after the PRV, which is
good since the rear hose bib is soon to be at street pressure.

I'm gonna try one of those SnakeBite Tee's to tap into the pipe at the
front of the house and run PEX to the rear hose bib.


Posted by SteveB on October 13, 2009, 6:43 pm



On Oct 13, 6:19 am, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> wrote:
> >I was taking a shower, when the water started a chattering noise, and the
> >spray was a pulsed spray. This came on when the Moen twist dial was in
> >the
> >same position for about two minutes. I changed the dial, then returned it
> >to the original temperature position, and it did it again. A little
> >adjustment of the dial makes it go away, but it returns. What's this?
> >Steve
> The overall water pressure in your house has increased. The chatter is
> the anti-scald device trying to deal with too much pressure.


> You need to install a water pressure regulator...

Or replace a defective one (BTDT)

> and set it at around 50 psi.

Hopefully, it's preset. Mine was.

> The easiest way to check and adjust the pressure is to buy a
> water pressure gauge that has a standard garden hose fitting on it.
> You can buy these ready made for about $15.

True (or less, I paid $12)

> Screw it on to any hose bib to use it.

To *use* it, that's true, but *which* bib you use might depend on what
you want to check.

The hose bib at the front of my house is before the PRV and therefore
at street pressure.

The hose bib at the rear of my house is after the PRV and thererfore
at "house" pressure.

I knew my PRV was bad when they both read about 85 psi.

And yes, the chattering went away after I replaced the PRV.

reply: I have one of the gauges. Will check the pressure next trip to
Vegas.

Steve



Posted by Phisherman on October 14, 2009, 9:24 am


On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:19:42 -0400, salty@dog.com wrote:

>wrote:
>>I was taking a shower, when the water started a chattering noise, and the
>>spray was a pulsed spray. This came on when the Moen twist dial was in the
>>same position for about two minutes. I changed the dial, then returned it
>>to the original temperature position, and it did it again. A little
>>adjustment of the dial makes it go away, but it returns. What's this?
>>Steve
>The overall water pressure in your house has increased. The chatter is
>the anti-scald device trying to deal with too much pressure.
>You need to install a water pressure regulator and set it at around 50
>psi. The easiest way to check and adjust the pressure is to buy a
>water pressure gauge that has a standard garden hose fitting on it.
>You can buy these ready made for about $15. Screw it on to any hose
>bib to use it.


An expansion tank (about $40) might work. It protects your water
tank, creates a buffer in the piping, saves appliance valves too.

Posted by on October 14, 2009, 9:42 am


wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:19:42 -0400, salty@dog.com wrote:
>>wrote:
>>>I was taking a shower, when the water started a chattering noise, and the
>>>spray was a pulsed spray. This came on when the Moen twist dial was in the
>>>same position for about two minutes. I changed the dial, then returned it
>>>to the original temperature position, and it did it again. A little
>>>adjustment of the dial makes it go away, but it returns. What's this?
>>>Steve
>>The overall water pressure in your house has increased. The chatter is
>>the anti-scald device trying to deal with too much pressure.
>>You need to install a water pressure regulator and set it at around 50
>>psi. The easiest way to check and adjust the pressure is to buy a
>>water pressure gauge that has a standard garden hose fitting on it.
>>You can buy these ready made for about $15. Screw it on to any hose
>>bib to use it.
>An expansion tank (about $40) might work. It protects your water
>tank, creates a buffer in the piping, saves appliance valves too.

That would be the wrong tool for this particular job.


Posted by Noahbuddy on October 13, 2009, 7:33 pm



> I was taking a shower, when the water started a chattering noise, and
> the spray was a pulsed spray. This came on when the Moen twist dial
> was in the same position for about two minutes. I changed the dial,
> then returned it to the original temperature position, and it did it
> again. A little adjustment of the dial makes it go away, but it
> returns. What's this?
>
> Steve
>
>
>

It likes your body.

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