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Plumbing chatter SteveB 10-12-2009
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Posted by Phisherman on October 14, 2009, 9:22 am


wrote:

>I was taking a shower, when the water started a chattering noise, and the
>spray was a pulsed spray. This came on when the Moen twist dial was in the
>same position for about two minutes. I changed the dial, then returned it
>to the original temperature position, and it did it again. A little
>adjustment of the dial makes it go away, but it returns. What's this?
>Steve


The flow of water is the same Hz (or multiple of) the natural
frequency of the piping. Try slightly decreasing (or increasing) the
flow rate through the pipes to stop the noise.

Posted by DerbyDad03 on October 14, 2009, 10:05 am


> wrote:
> >I was taking a shower, when the water started a chattering noise, and th=
e
> >spray was a pulsed spray. =A0This came on when the Moen twist dial was i=
n the
> >same position for about two minutes. =A0I changed the dial, then returne=
d it
> >to the original temperature position, and it did it again. =A0A little
> >adjustment of the dial makes it go away, but it returns. =A0What's this?
> >Steve
> The flow of water is the same Hz (or multiple of) the natural
> frequency of the piping. =A0 Try slightly decreasing (or increasing) the
> flow rate through the pipes to stop the noise.

I hope you are suggesting this method as a "test" not as a "fix".

Since chattering pipes is not a normal occurrence, the OP shouldn't
have to set a faucet to a specific flow rate to get it to work
properly.

Patient: "Hey Doc, it hurts when I do this."
Doc: "Don't do that."

Find the root cause and fix it, don't just treat the symptom.

Posted by on October 14, 2009, 10:15 am


On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:05:03 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03

>> wrote:
>> >I was taking a shower, when the water started a chattering noise, and the
>> >spray was a pulsed spray.  This came on when the Moen twist dial was in the
>> >same position for about two minutes.  I changed the dial, then returned it
>> >to the original temperature position, and it did it again.  A little
>> >adjustment of the dial makes it go away, but it returns.  What's this?
>> >Steve
>> The flow of water is the same Hz (or multiple of) the natural
>> frequency of the piping.   Try slightly decreasing (or increasing) the
>> flow rate through the pipes to stop the noise.
>I hope you are suggesting this method as a "test" not as a "fix".
>Since chattering pipes is not a normal occurrence, the OP shouldn't
>have to set a faucet to a specific flow rate to get it to work
>properly.
>Patient: "Hey Doc, it hurts when I do this."
>Doc: "Don't do that."
>Find the root cause and fix it, don't just treat the symptom.

A Water pressure regulator valve is what is called for here. It will
reduce the pressure (the actual problem) without restricting the
volume of water.


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