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Plumbing problem Dan_Musicant 09-19-2006
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Posted by Dan_Musicant on September 20, 2006, 5:01 pm

:>
:> PS Yes, it's pretty obvious that fixing this one will be no easy fix.
:> At the very least, tearing open floor/wall and replacing bad drain pipes
:> and considerable repair to repair floor/wall. The whole house could use
:> a plumbing upgrade. I think I'm going to be soliciting quotes soon.
:> Thanks for the answers.
:
:If you tear up walls, it may be a good time to upgrade electrical as well.

No lie. In fact the smartest m.o. would be to do things in this order:

1. Remove brick and stone siding.

2. Remove old foundation, replace with new foundation (brick and stone
has to be removed in order to do the foundation work, anyway).

3. Install completely new electrical service and wiring with whole house
surge protection and properly grounded outlets.

4. Install new and updated plumbing, both supply lines and drains
throughout house.

5. Install new siding and repair interior walls and floors as required
after installing the plumbing and electrical.

Maybe I should just do all that and stand back and think about
additional work, which would include remodeling the kitchen and
bathrooms, painting the interior and exterior, refinishing the floors,
etc.

Financing all this coordinated work is worisome. I'm unemployed and
don't know if I'm going to get a job or figure out a way to have cash
flow. I'm sitting on some invested money which gives me a small income.

If only I can figure out how to do some of this in an intelligent manner
without doing all of it as described. Maybe I can do the plumbing and
electrical now and wait on the foundation and siding. I'm thinking that
the plumbing and electrical would be easier when the exterior siding is
off (brick, mainly because the stone is only on the front). The time to
redo the siding is obviously when the foundation is replaced.

Dan





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Posted by Harry K on September 20, 2006, 10:35 am

Dan_Musicant wrote:
> I forgot one other probable/possible clue:
>
> Yesterday, when turning on the water in my newly installed sink and it
> was draining, I heard a distinct glug_glug_glug from from the toilet! I
> never heard that before. I had to leave, and I was thinking it over. I
> remembered that the sink had drained slowly for a day or two in the
> summer but then seemed alright, so I figured maybe I had a trapped air
> problem in the sink drain that was causing it to drain slowly. I thought
> that maybe if I flushed the toilet, the sink would drain again OK. If
> only my problem could be so easily solved. Of course, flushing the
> toilet didn't help!
>
> Dan
>
> PS Yes, it's pretty obvious that fixing this one will be no easy fix.
> At the very least, tearing open floor/wall and replacing bad drain pipes
> and considerable repair to repair floor/wall. The whole house could use
> a plumbing upgrade. I think I'm going to be soliciting quotes soon.
> Thanks for the answers.

You have a couple of choices, neither pleasant.

Tear open the walls and ceiling to that upstairs bath and fix
everything. Don't forget to correct the vent pipe problem as that is
probably over 1/2 your problem right there.

Close down the bath and forget it is there. Try to shut off any water
lines leading into it.

Harry K


Posted by Sev on September 20, 2006, 11:39 am

Does sound like you'll be opening ceiling/ wall- in house this old,
vent can be rusted away if it's cast iron. Could be a long weekend, or
else get quotes. You might want to open ceiling, since it probably
needs to be replaced where leak was anyway- might let you or plumber
see better what needs doing, more accurate quote.


Posted by Dan_Musicant on September 20, 2006, 5:02 pm
wrote:

:
:Dan_Musicant wrote:
:> I forgot one other probable/possible clue:
:>
:> Yesterday, when turning on the water in my newly installed sink and it
:> was draining, I heard a distinct glug_glug_glug from from the toilet! I
:> never heard that before. I had to leave, and I was thinking it over. I
:> remembered that the sink had drained slowly for a day or two in the
:> summer but then seemed alright, so I figured maybe I had a trapped air
:> problem in the sink drain that was causing it to drain slowly. I thought
:> that maybe if I flushed the toilet, the sink would drain again OK. If
:> only my problem could be so easily solved. Of course, flushing the
:> toilet didn't help!
:>
:> Dan
:>
:> PS Yes, it's pretty obvious that fixing this one will be no easy fix.
:> At the very least, tearing open floor/wall and replacing bad drain pipes
:> and considerable repair to repair floor/wall. The whole house could use
:> a plumbing upgrade. I think I'm going to be soliciting quotes soon.
:> Thanks for the answers.
:
:You have a couple of choices, neither pleasant.
:
:Tear open the walls and ceiling to that upstairs bath and fix
:everything. Don't forget to correct the vent pipe problem as that is
:probably over 1/2 your problem right there.
:
:Close down the bath and forget it is there. Try to shut off any water
:lines leading into it.
:
:Harry K

The tub and sink are useless, but the toilet seems to work OK.


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