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Plumbing problem question tom_sawyer70 08-18-2005
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Posted by on August 18, 2005, 7:11 pm


Hi,
Today we started to hear gurgling in the lower level toilet, the sink
and the kitchen sink.

- There is no observed problem with water draining.
- The septic tank was cleaned within the past 18 months (2 adults, 1
child in a 4BD house that I believe has a 1000gal tank)
- I thought it might be a vent issue, so I ran a 20ft snake down the
vent and did not hit anything (house is a tri-level, so the vent
exposure is about 2 1/2 stories up)
- Rank 20ft snake into lowest level toilet (where gurgling is heard and
where it backed up enough to overflow onto the floor) and seemed to hit
something but got through it

Still the gurgling is heard when the clothes washer runs and it backed
up a second time.

Tomorrow, I will attempt to snake from the septic back into the house.

Is it basically a vent/blockage to the septic issue (i.e., am I on the
right track)?

Thanks,
Dave



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Posted by Speedy Jim on August 18, 2005, 10:30 pm


tom_sawyer70@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi,
> Today we started to hear gurgling in the lower level toilet, the sink
> and the kitchen sink.
>
> - There is no observed problem with water draining.
> - The septic tank was cleaned within the past 18 months (2 adults, 1
> child in a 4BD house that I believe has a 1000gal tank)
> - I thought it might be a vent issue, so I ran a 20ft snake down the
> vent and did not hit anything (house is a tri-level, so the vent
> exposure is about 2 1/2 stories up)
> - Rank 20ft snake into lowest level toilet (where gurgling is heard and
> where it backed up enough to overflow onto the floor) and seemed to hit
> something but got through it
>
> Still the gurgling is heard when the clothes washer runs and it backed
> up a second time.
>
> Tomorrow, I will attempt to snake from the septic back into the house.
>
> Is it basically a vent/blockage to the septic issue (i.e., am I on the
> right track)?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>

Doesn't sound like venting, as you discovered the vent is clear.
Main line clogged or else the septic field is blocked/waterlogged.
The tank is always full of liquid; that's the way it works.
The spillover goes out to the field.

Jim


Posted by on August 19, 2005, 3:46 am



Speedy Jim wrote:
>
> Doesn't sound like venting, as you discovered the vent is clear.
> Main line clogged or else the septic field is blocked/waterlogged.
> The tank is always full of liquid; that's the way it works.
> The spillover goes out to the field.
>
> Jim

Thanks for the reply, Jim. The field is not wet at all and recently my
neighbor had to dig up their field because of roots...they had a
noticeable liquid problem in their case.

So, it must be a clog in the main somewhere. I attempted to get the
cap off the septic tank to try to snake from that end, but I cannot get
the plug out (I need a crowbar). The clog must not be a complete
blockage because lately, the backup has not occurred during flush
tests, but rather if a large amount of water is put through (i.e.,
laundry).

Thanks,
Dave



Posted by Speedy Jim on August 19, 2005, 8:46 am


tom_sawyer70@yahoo.com wrote:

> Speedy Jim wrote:
>
>> Doesn't sound like venting, as you discovered the vent is clear.
>> Main line clogged or else the septic field is blocked/waterlogged.
>> The tank is always full of liquid; that's the way it works.
>> The spillover goes out to the field.
>>
>>Jim
>
>
> Thanks for the reply, Jim. The field is not wet at all and recently my
> neighbor had to dig up their field because of roots...they had a
> noticeable liquid problem in their case.
>
> So, it must be a clog in the main somewhere. I attempted to get the
> cap off the septic tank to try to snake from that end, but I cannot get
> the plug out (I need a crowbar). The clog must not be a complete
> blockage because lately, the backup has not occurred during flush
> tests, but rather if a large amount of water is put through (i.e.,
> laundry).
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
May have more success with a bigger snake. Rent a sewer auger
at a local rental place. You'll need a cleanout access in/near
the house.

Jim


Posted by on August 19, 2005, 11:14 am


Jim,
In reading about the septic system the past couple of hours, I've seen
quite a bit on the do's/don'ts for systems.

One item I've read about is a laundry filter. Do you have any opinion
on their effectiveness (i.e., worth the cost)?

Thanks,
Dave



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