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Pool GFI Revisited - test results! Pipedown? ron_windham@hotmail.com 07-03-2005
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Posted by ron_windham@hotmail.com on July 3, 2005, 1:32 pm
OK - I pulled off the top of the deck lamp junction box and isolated
the wires going directly to the underwater bulb (recall that turning it
on trips the GFI, which tests to be working correctly.

Between the two leads to the bulb (green and black) there is
continuity. Between each of the individual leads and the pool ground
(electrical junction box) there is also continuity. I think this is
expected from the green (ground) lead --- but I'm guessing the fact
that the black lamp lead is also grounded is what's causing the GFI to
trip.

Is this right?

What's the next step in repair? Pulling the wire to the niche and
replacing --- or is pulling the lamp housing up the surface for
inspection next?

Thanks for ideas?


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Posted by Duane Bozarth on July 3, 2005, 1:56 pm
"ron_windham@hotmail.com" wrote:
>
> OK - I pulled off the top of the deck lamp junction box and isolated
> the wires going directly to the underwater bulb (recall that turning it
> on trips the GFI, which tests to be working correctly.
>
> Between the two leads to the bulb (green and black) there is
> continuity. Between each of the individual leads and the pool ground
> (electrical junction box) there is also continuity. I think this is
> expected from the green (ground) lead --- but I'm guessing the fact
> that the black lamp lead is also grounded is what's causing the GFI to
> trip.
>
> Is this right?
>
> What's the next step in repair? Pulling the wire to the niche and
> replacing --- or is pulling the lamp housing up the surface for
> inspection next?
>

Well, if the hot side is grounded there's a problem... :) But
"continuity" is something else..if the bulb is intact, there will be
continuity through the filament--but it shouldn't be a dead short.

I think b) is the next step...of course, I figured it was where you
needed to look to begin with, too... :)

Posted by RBM on July 3, 2005, 2:57 pm
Now you've confirmed that you have a ground fault in the fixture/wiring. You
have three choices: leave it disconnected and have no underwater light,
somehow get the stuck screw out and "try" to replace the lamp if bad and the
gasket(good luck) or spend a few hundred dollars and get an entire new
sealed unit
> OK - I pulled off the top of the deck lamp junction box and isolated
> the wires going directly to the underwater bulb (recall that turning it
> on trips the GFI, which tests to be working correctly.
>
> Between the two leads to the bulb (green and black) there is
> continuity. Between each of the individual leads and the pool ground
> (electrical junction box) there is also continuity. I think this is
> expected from the green (ground) lead --- but I'm guessing the fact
> that the black lamp lead is also grounded is what's causing the GFI to
> trip.
>
> Is this right?
>
> What's the next step in repair? Pulling the wire to the niche and
> replacing --- or is pulling the lamp housing up the surface for
> inspection next?
>
> Thanks for ideas?
>



Posted by Matt on July 3, 2005, 3:08 pm
Ron -

Buy a new fixture. Don't attempt a repair.

I'm not saying it can't be fixed... but do you really want to wonder if
your fix is holding up every time you jump in the pool?

Even if it's $1000; either buy a new fixture, or go without.

Well, thats what I would do, anyway.


Posted by ron_windham@hotmail.com on July 3, 2005, 5:49 pm
OK - My work is cut out: Hire an electrician!
Thanks for the feedback - at least I"ll now what I'm up against.
Cheers!


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