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Pool light replacement Ed 10-23-2006
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Posted by Ed on October 23, 2006, 1:35 pm


We had the concrete deck around our community swimming pool ripped out
for replacement and find
the electrical line to the pool light badly corroded. There is a 1/2"
brass or heavy copper (red brass?) conduit extending
about 6" from the light housing in the pool wall to what was once a
junction box in the deck,
but the box is long gone. It looks like the guy that replaced the
light 10-15 years ago simply ripped
out the box, joined the conductors, and poured concrete over it. From
that point to the cabaņa,
about 25-30 feet away, is a badly corroded metal conduit.

I've learned that "deck boxes" are no longer allowed, but pool lights
can now be purchased with
very long leads. So, we want to locate a new junction box at the
cabaņa. The question is what
kind of conduit should be used from the end of the existing copper
conduit to the new junction box.
Can we somehow join the copper to the gray plastic conduit, or do we
have to use copper all the way?


TIA

Ed




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Posted by RBM on October 23, 2006, 3:53 pm


You could use red brass to extend what you already have, or remove
everything back to the shell and install PVC. It will still have to extend
to a deck box, which these days are mounted above ground and the pvc must
include a solid #8 conductor in it along with the cord from the fixture


> We had the concrete deck around our community swimming pool ripped out for
> replacement and find
> the electrical line to the pool light badly corroded. There is a 1/2"
> brass or heavy copper (red brass?) conduit extending
> about 6" from the light housing in the pool wall to what was once a
> junction box in the deck,
> but the box is long gone. It looks like the guy that replaced the light
> 10-15 years ago simply ripped
> out the box, joined the conductors, and poured concrete over it. From that
> point to the cabaņa,
> about 25-30 feet away, is a badly corroded metal conduit.
>
> I've learned that "deck boxes" are no longer allowed, but pool lights can
> now be purchased with
> very long leads. So, we want to locate a new junction box at the cabaņa.
> The question is what
> kind of conduit should be used from the end of the existing copper conduit
> to the new junction box.
> Can we somehow join the copper to the gray plastic conduit, or do we have
> to use copper all the way?
>
>
> TIA
>
> Ed
>
>
>



Posted by Ed on October 23, 2006, 10:21 pm


Thanks.

So I gather that PVC is not forbidden in a pool environment, but it
must be red brass all the way
or PVC all the way? Is it that there can't be a break in the conduit
between the shell and the
above ground deck box?


Ed

> You could use red brass to extend what you already have, or remove
> everything back to the shell and install PVC. It will still have to
> extend to a deck box, which these days are mounted above ground and
> the pvc must include a solid #8 conductor in it along with the cord
> from the fixture
>
>
>> We had the concrete deck around our community swimming pool ripped
>> out for replacement and find
>> the electrical line to the pool light badly corroded. There is a
>> 1/2" brass or heavy copper (red brass?) conduit extending
>> about 6" from the light housing in the pool wall to what was once a
>> junction box in the deck,
>> but the box is long gone. It looks like the guy that replaced the
>> light 10-15 years ago simply ripped
>> out the box, joined the conductors, and poured concrete over it.
>> From that point to the cabaņa,
>> about 25-30 feet away, is a badly corroded metal conduit.
>>
>> I've learned that "deck boxes" are no longer allowed, but pool
>> lights can now be purchased with
>> very long leads. So, we want to locate a new junction box at the
>> cabaņa. The question is what
>> kind of conduit should be used from the end of the existing copper
>> conduit to the new junction box.
>> Can we somehow join the copper to the gray plastic conduit, or do
>> we have to use copper all the way?
>>
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Posted by RBM on October 24, 2006, 6:59 am


There can't be a break in the conduit from the shell to the deck box, but
the problem is the red brass pipe isn't large enough for the #8 conductor to
fit with the light cord. I believe you need 1" to fit both. There is a
termination in the shell and in the deck box for the #8. Also red brass pipe
would cost more than the pool


> Thanks.
>
> So I gather that PVC is not forbidden in a pool environment, but it must
> be red brass all the way
> or PVC all the way? Is it that there can't be a break in the conduit
> between the shell and the
> above ground deck box?
>
>
> Ed
>
>> You could use red brass to extend what you already have, or remove
>> everything back to the shell and install PVC. It will still have to
>> extend to a deck box, which these days are mounted above ground and the
>> pvc must include a solid #8 conductor in it along with the cord from the
>> fixture
>>
>>
>>> We had the concrete deck around our community swimming pool ripped out
>>> for replacement and find
>>> the electrical line to the pool light badly corroded. There is a 1/2"
>>> brass or heavy copper (red brass?) conduit extending
>>> about 6" from the light housing in the pool wall to what was once a
>>> junction box in the deck,
>>> but the box is long gone. It looks like the guy that replaced the light
>>> 10-15 years ago simply ripped
>>> out the box, joined the conductors, and poured concrete over it. From
>>> that point to the cabaņa,
>>> about 25-30 feet away, is a badly corroded metal conduit.
>>>
>>> I've learned that "deck boxes" are no longer allowed, but pool lights
>>> can now be purchased with
>>> very long leads. So, we want to locate a new junction box at the
>>> cabaņa. The question is what
>>> kind of conduit should be used from the end of the existing copper
>>> conduit to the new junction box.
>>> Can we somehow join the copper to the gray plastic conduit, or do we
>>> have to use copper all the way?
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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