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Porch light burns out very fast zmike6 06-04-2007
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Posted by Don Klipstein on June 6, 2007, 12:16 am
>
>> Those compact fluorescents are going to be the next big environmental mess
>> on the scale of MtBE!
>
>I hear that GE has an incandesent that is at least as efficient as a CFL...
>Anyone have any details?
>
>As efficient as CFLs are, they are relatively complicated devices. There
>must be other solutions out there that doesn't involve such a complicated
>device for such a simple task.

The efficient GE incandescent has less than half the efficiency of a
CFL. It is HIR, which is halogen with infrared retroflection technology.
An example is a 350 watt tubular halogen with light output close to that
of a 500 watt more-ordinary halogen, or close to that of about 150-170
watts of compact fluorescents.
It improves upon other incandescents and halogens that have 1/3 or less
the efficiency of CFLs.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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Posted by willshak on June 6, 2007, 7:25 am
on 6/4/2007 11:39 PM Noozer said the following:
>> Those compact fluorescents are going to be the next big environmental mess
>> on the scale of MtBE!
>>
>
> I hear that GE has an incandesent that is at least as efficient as a CFL...
> Anyone have any details?
>
> As efficient as CFLs are, they are relatively complicated devices. There
> must be other solutions out there that doesn't involve such a complicated
> device for such a simple task.

No one suggested building your own CFLs. It is not complicated to
unscrew an incandescent bulb and replace it with a CFL.
Just make sure you wear protective clothing, eye protection, gloves, ear
plugs, and a gas mask. Be sure to evacuate the whole house before you
replace the bulb in case it breaks, spreading the 4 mg of mercury
throughout the house. Have the local hazardous waste removal service on
standby. :-)

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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Posted by Lawrence on June 5, 2007, 1:24 am
> Those compact fluorescents are going to be the next big environmental mess
> on the scale of MtBE!- Hide quoted text -

I checked into that. What I read is that ultra-small but measurable
amounts of mercury is contained in the CF bulbs. BUT, Coal-fired
power plants which predominate in the U.S and Canada spew huge
quantities of mercury into the atmospehere and is essentially
everwhere in small quantities now. They say that the power saved by
using those CF's would remove quanties of mercury from the enviroment
that are far, far in excess of the ultra--small quantities of mercury
in these CF's wich can be contained either with specific recycling or
just in landiflls would be safe compared to the poisons these electric
plants spew into the envronment.

I imagine it's all a moot point when the demand for electicithy is
increasing around the world. Electricity is convenient and profitable
and the human race will usually want it where available. I know I am
totally addicted to electricity like most people I rely on it for many
things. Keeping the cost of it down is good for business so it's hard
to be against it. Hell, if it's in the fish then where else is it?


Posted by Jackson on June 7, 2007, 10:42 pm

>> Those compact fluorescents are going to be the next big environmental
>> mess
>> on the scale of MtBE!- Hide quoted text -
>
> I checked into that. What I read is that ultra-small but measurable
> amounts of mercury is contained in the CF bulbs. BUT, Coal-fired
> power plants which predominate in the U.S and Canada spew huge
> quantities of mercury into the atmospehere and is essentially
> everwhere in small quantities now. They say that the power saved by
> using those CF's would remove quanties of mercury from the enviroment
> that are far, far in excess of the ultra--small quantities of mercury
> in these CF's wich can be contained either with specific recycling or
> just in landiflls would be safe compared to the poisons these electric
> plants spew into the envronment.
>
> I imagine it's all a moot point when the demand for electicithy is
> increasing around the world. Electricity is convenient and profitable
> and the human race will usually want it where available. I know I am
> totally addicted to electricity like most people I rely on it for many
> things. Keeping the cost of it down is good for business so it's hard
> to be against it. Hell, if it's in the fish then where else is it?
>

Uh, mercury is a naturally occurring element. It already was/is everywhere
before power plants started "spewing" it.



Posted by Lawrence on June 8, 2007, 9:53 am
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Those compact fluorescents are going to be the next big environmental
> >> mess
> >> on the scale of MtBE!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > I checked into that. What I read is that ultra-small but measurable
> > amounts of mercury is contained in the CF bulbs. BUT, Coal-fired
> > power plants which predominate in the U.S and Canada spew huge
> > quantities of mercury into the atmospehere and is essentially
> > everwhere in small quantities now. They say that the power saved by
> > using those CF's would remove quanties of mercury from the enviroment
> > that are far, far in excess of the ultra--small quantities of mercury
> > in these CF's wich can be contained either with specific recycling or
> > just in landiflls would be safe compared to the poisons these electric
> > plants spew into the envronment.
>
> > I imagine it's all a moot point when the demand for electicithy is
> > increasing around the world. Electricity is convenient and profitable
> > and the human race will usually want it where available. I know I am
> > totally addicted to electricity like most people I rely on it for many
> > things. Keeping the cost of it down is good for business so it's hard
> > to be against it. Hell, if it's in the fish then where else is it?
>
> Uh, mercury is a naturally occurring element. It already was/is everywhere
> before power plants started "spewing" it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Um, then maybe yu should have an extra portion. Where I live mercury
contamination and poisoning are very real issues. If you are
sarcastic concerning the danger then you deserve for you and you
children to be poisoned. Then you will shut the fuck up.


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