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Preventing Carpinter Ants jay-n-123 04-09-2007
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Posted by Lar on April 10, 2007, 12:00 am


jay-n-123 wrote:

> I've found that Ortho Home Defense and Hot Shot Home Insect Control don't
> seem to kill ants (the ants are still alive and kicking after several
> minutes of contact)....am I correct in thinking these products are totally
> useless?
>
> Since the aforementioned clear non-repellent products don't seem to work,

Not sure what the active of Hot Shot Home Insect is but I believe The
Ortho product is Bifenthrin, which is considered a repellent. Any of the
actives that end in -thrin are in a group of insecticides called
pyrethroids and they are considered repellents. Many companies base
their work on bifenthrin though it probably is at least twice as strong
as the over the counter product.

> my
> prevention strategy is to spray outside of building (where wood meets
> concrete) once a month with ordinary home and garden aerosol (which DOES
> kill ants). I do this mainly to prevent foragers from wanting to venture
> into my townhouse, since the ants dislike the smell of the insecticide. I
> try to direct spray so it gets a little bit underneath the siding. So far
> this strategy seems to be working.

The best preventative is to make sure no tree limbs or shrubbery touches
the side of the structure.

> Was wondering if there is anything that would repel ants besides home and
> garden insecticide? (looking for something besides insecticide which would
> have a smell that would repel ants, but which would not cause any damage to
> the wood or siding, and which would be totally harmless to humans). Does
> something like that exist?

The best long term control of carp ants, and other ants too is the
Advance Carp Ant Bait...just sprinkle it around the outside will reduce
the numbers greatly.

Lar

Posted by Norminn on April 10, 2007, 6:14 am


jay-n-123 wrote:

> I've found that Ortho Home Defense and Hot Shot Home Insect Control don't
> seem to kill ants (the ants are still alive and kicking after several
> minutes of contact)....am I correct in thinking these products are totally
> useless?
>
> Since the aforementioned clear non-repellent products don't seem to work, my
> prevention strategy is to spray outside of building (where wood meets
> concrete) once a month with ordinary home and garden aerosol (which DOES
> kill ants). I do this mainly to prevent foragers from wanting to venture

A really, really bad idea. Have you read about honey bees disappearing?
There are loads of BENEFICIAL insects that we NEED around and dumping
poison to keep them from getting into the house is a very bad choice.

I would start by locating nests, if you have carpenter ants in/on the
house. If you have trees, shrubs or wood fence infested, then take care
of the problem - get rid of dead/damaged wood and the carpenter ants
will go.

If they do forage into the house, clean it up, seal up entries best you
can and use baits in the house. They forage in evening and it is easy
to find trails to bait or to locate the nest.

> into my townhouse, since the ants dislike the smell of the insecticide. I
> try to direct spray so it gets a little bit underneath the siding. So far
> this strategy seems to be working.
>
> Was wondering if there is anything that would repel ants besides home and

Bugs belong outdoors. Seal up fine openings around windows, doors,
plumbing entries, etc. Keep wood painted and in good repair. Keep
landscaping off the house = trim tree limbs hanging onto roof, keep
gutters clear of debris, keep shrubs from touching wood structure. Then
inspect very thoroughly at least once a year for signs of termite tubes
or boring insects.

> garden insecticide? (looking for something besides insecticide which would
> have a smell that would repel ants, but which would not cause any damage to
> the wood or siding, and which would be totally harmless to humans). Does
> something like that exist?
>
No. It's spring, we just had company - lots of sweets sitting on the
counter or getting spilled. Ants all over the counter, as expected.
I'm going out to get a little bottle of boric acid ant bait. Ants will
be gone tomorrow.

During unusual weather conditions, lots of pests come indoors that
normally would not. During a drought, I couldn't walk outside with food
or drink and not have hornets coming after it..even tried to get at my
eyes!
> Thanks,
>
> J.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Posted by Stormin Mormon on April 10, 2007, 6:41 pm


Years ago I tried liquid ant bait from www.gardensalive.com and
havn't seen a carpenter ant since then. Several years later.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.

: I've found that Ortho Home Defense and Hot Shot Home Insect
Control don't
: seem to kill ants (the ants are still alive and kicking after
several
: minutes of contact)....am I correct in thinking these products
are totally
: useless?
:
: Since the aforementioned clear non-repellent products don't
seem to work, my
: prevention strategy is to spray outside of building (where wood
meets
: concrete) once a month with ordinary home and garden aerosol
(which DOES
: kill ants). I do this mainly to prevent foragers from wanting
to venture
: into my townhouse, since the ants dislike the smell of the
insecticide. I
: try to direct spray so it gets a little bit underneath the
siding. So far
: this strategy seems to be working.
:
: Was wondering if there is anything that would repel ants
besides home and
: garden insecticide? (looking for something besides
insecticide which would
: have a smell that would repel ants, but which would not cause
any damage to
: the wood or siding, and which would be totally harmless to
humans). Does
: something like that exist?
:
: Thanks,
:
: J.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:



Posted by Just Joshin on April 11, 2007, 2:22 pm


wrote:

>I've found that Ortho Home Defense and Hot Shot Home Insect Control don't
>seem to kill ants (the ants are still alive and kicking after several
>minutes of contact)....am I correct in thinking these products are totally
>useless?
>
>Since the aforementioned clear non-repellent products don't seem to work, my
>prevention strategy is to spray outside of building (where wood meets
>concrete) once a month with ordinary home and garden aerosol (which DOES
>kill ants). I do this mainly to prevent foragers from wanting to venture
>into my townhouse, since the ants dislike the smell of the insecticide. I
>try to direct spray so it gets a little bit underneath the siding. So far
>this strategy seems to be working.
>
>Was wondering if there is anything that would repel ants besides home and
>garden insecticide? (looking for something besides insecticide which would
>have a smell that would repel ants, but which would not cause any damage to
>the wood or siding, and which would be totally harmless to humans). Does
>something like that exist?
>
>Thanks,
>
>J.
>

I heard bay leaves can repell some ants but don't remember why.

tom @ www.Carpenter-Ant-Killer.com


Posted by dean on April 11, 2007, 3:01 pm


> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >I've found that Ortho Home Defense and Hot Shot Home Insect Control don't
> >seem to kill ants (the ants are still alive and kicking after several
> >minutes of contact)....am I correct in thinking these products are totally
> >useless?
>
> >Since the aforementioned clear non-repellent products don't seem to work, my
> >prevention strategy is to spray outside of building (where wood meets
> >concrete) once a month with ordinary home and garden aerosol (which DOES
> >kill ants). I do this mainly to prevent foragers from wanting to venture
> >into my townhouse, since the ants dislike the smell of the insecticide. I
> >try to direct spray so it gets a little bit underneath the siding. So far
> >this strategy seems to be working.
>
> >Was wondering if there is anything that would repel ants besides home and
> >garden insecticide? (looking for something besides insecticide which would
> >have a smell that would repel ants, but which would not cause any damage to
> >the wood or siding, and which would be totally harmless to humans). Does
> >something like that exist?
>
> >Thanks,
>
> >J.
>
> I heard bay leaves can repell some ants but don't remember why.
>
> tom @www.Carpenter-Ant-Killer.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Fipronil kills the nest - its the same stuff terminix uses. You can
get it in "Combat" syringe tubes at HD.

I had them in my wall - could hear them chewing the wood while I sat
down eating dinner! I drilled holes in the board, injected 10 tubes of
the stuff, they were all dead in 2 days and never came back.

But I cannot say that this stufff is better than any other material,
all I can say is that it works and Terminix uses it.


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