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Posted by RBM on April 24, 2008, 7:14 am
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>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:17:25 -0700 (PDT), nmbexcuse@hotmail.com wrote:
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>>>I guess I have two questions. First let me explain this situation.
>>>
>>>I have an existing EMT conduit that runs from my panel in the garage
>>>to a junction box in the attic 80 feet away. From the junction box
>>>another pipe to go to the outside to serve the pool pump.
>>>
>>>When my electricians were looking at the wires, they determined that
>>>the color of the wires are wrong on that run, they have used a blue
>>>#12 wire when it should be white #12 to the junction box, and then
>>>they used a black #12 to continue on that wire to the pump (actually
>>>the timer of the pump). Due to this mis-color, it got them confused
>>>and they recommended that I rerun new wires while we are working on
>>>the wiring. I agreed. This resulted in me having to buy an extra
>>>roll of 500' #12 wire ($60) and a change order to the contract with
>>>added money ($250).
>>>
>>>They told me this was "all taken care of".
>>>
>>>Now a few days later, I asked them if they ran the wire, they told me
>>>no. Why, because the conduit was too tight, it has #8 wires in it to
>>>serve an AC unit, and they tried to pull the old wire but not able to,
>>>thinking the old wire may be twisted or tangled with the #8 around
>>>some elbows. I understand that....but...
>>>
>>>(1) In this case, should I be subjected to the added charge? Since
>>>they didn't do what they said they would do? or yes since they spent
>>>time trying? At the end they used colored electrical tapes to wrap
>>>around the ends of the wires to indicate the mis-coloration.
>>>
>>>(2) Should I attempt to change it? Should I ask them to pull the #8
>>>and the #12 all out, untangle everything, and then run the new wires
>>>through together? or is this a high risk that we may not be able to
>>>feed everything through? Pipe is 1/2", there are I think two #8 and
>>>two #12 with the intent to replace both #12.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>MC
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>> It sounds like the guys you have are totally incompetent.
>>
>> Why were they out there in the first place?
>>
>> If they were messing with the wiring just because it was the wrong
>> color then they were trying to stiff you in the first place.
>>
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> I'm no 'lectrician and I thought NEC made cash registers or something
> like that but I try to stay withing the rules especially when it comes to
> safety. In all the house wiring reading I've done, if a wire is used for
> other than it's normal coded color purpose you just mark the end with the
> proper color.
>
> Maybe exterior apps or local codes previal.
The National Electric Code has specific requirements for conductor marking,
as it does for damn near everything else. You can remark conductors larger
than #6. You can remark a white conductor to a color, but grounded and
grounding conductors smaller than #6 are generally not supposed to be
remarked
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