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Question on rescreening screened porch Melissa 07-23-2008
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Posted by Melissa on July 23, 2008, 1:55 pm


Hi,

I'm rescreening my screened porch, which has brick walls to waist
height, and then wood framing above and had aluminum screens stapled
to the wood frame and covered with trim. The windows are inset
between larger posts. Because they are inset, I cannot use a product
like Screen-tite unless I want to build the window frames out flush,
and that's too involved for me. So I am just building screen frames
with the extruded aluminum parts that you can buy at Home Despots.

1. My first question has to do with the best way to attach the
aluminum screen frame to the wood window framing. It looks like the
easiest and best way to do this would be to simply screw the screen
frames to the wood. I've bought some #8x1 pan head Phillips self-
tapping machine screws for this purpose, but I am wondering if this is
really doable given how malleable the extruded aluminum is. Do I need
to predrill it to keep it from warping or bending in wierd ways? Or
does no person in his right mind attempt to put screws through these
things?

2. My second question is whether a 9 pound cat, climbing one of these
screens, will be able to pull the spline out of the channels, and if
so, what else I might do to keep this from happening? Thought about
crimping the spline channel with a pair of pliers. Is there a
downside to this?

Advice appreciated and thanks in advance,

Melissa

Posted by charlie on July 23, 2008, 2:05 pm



> Hi,
>
> I'm rescreening my screened porch, which has brick walls to waist
> height, and then wood framing above and had aluminum screens stapled
> to the wood frame and covered with trim. The windows are inset
> between larger posts. Because they are inset, I cannot use a product
> like Screen-tite unless I want to build the window frames out flush,
> and that's too involved for me. So I am just building screen frames
> with the extruded aluminum parts that you can buy at Home Despots.
>
> 1. My first question has to do with the best way to attach the
> aluminum screen frame to the wood window framing. It looks like the
> easiest and best way to do this would be to simply screw the screen
> frames to the wood. I've bought some #8x1 pan head Phillips self-
> tapping machine screws for this purpose, but I am wondering if this is
> really doable given how malleable the extruded aluminum is. Do I need
> to predrill it to keep it from warping or bending in wierd ways? Or
> does no person in his right mind attempt to put screws through these
> things?

mirror clips?

> 2. My second question is whether a 9 pound cat, climbing one of these
> screens, will be able to pull the spline out of the channels, and if
> so, what else I might do to keep this from happening? Thought about
> crimping the spline channel with a pair of pliers. Is there a
> downside to this?

probably. teach it to not do that with a squirt bottle. you can get
cat-proof screen. you could also make (have made) an L shaped piece of wood
that would fit over the screen edges, and screw the wood frame into the
window frame. that would prevent the spline from come out.

> Advice appreciated and thanks in advance,
>
> Melissa



Posted by cshenk on July 25, 2008, 7:57 am



HI charlie! Thanks for quoting. Can you tell Melissa how to shift her
ourbound posted address to not be @gmail so she can be seen by the roughly
60% (guessing) of us who spam filter that out?

Melissa, you will see me but unless another quotes your reply back to me, I
wnt see any answer til you do this. It's not YOUR fault but too many
spammers use unfiltered @gmail accounts so a huge number block them. Your
note was collateral damage though you are innocent of this.

>> I'm rescreening my screened porch, which has brick walls to waist
>> height, and then wood framing above and had aluminum screens stapled
>> to the wood frame and covered with trim.

Easy to do. There was a long thread just in the past month on how to do
this sort of porch but it didnt involve aluminum screens.

>>The windows are inset
>> between larger posts. Because they are inset, I cannot use a product
>> like Screen-tite unless I want to build the window frames out flush,
>> and that's too involved for me. So I am just building screen frames
>> with the extruded aluminum parts that you can buy at Home Despots.

Can you describe what you mean by 'inset'?

To me this means I have a 4 inch or so beam and the screens are at mid-way
(2 inches in with room on both sides).

>> 1. My first question has to do with the best way to attach the
>> aluminum screen frame to the wood window framing. It looks like the
>> easiest and best way to do this would be to simply screw the screen
>> frames to the wood. I've bought some #8x1 pan head Phillips self-
>> tapping machine screws for this purpose, but I am wondering if this is
>> really doable given how malleable the extruded aluminum is. Do I need
>> to predrill it to keep it from warping or bending in wierd ways? Or
>> does no person in his right mind attempt to put screws through these
>> things?

Predrill, but personally I would not have used metal screening at all. It
would be actually faster to just use thin molding wood and a staple gun to
the wood frames.

>> 2. My second question is whether a 9 pound cat, climbing one of these
>> screens, will be able to pull the spline out of the channels, and if
>> so, what else I might do to keep this from happening? Thought about
>> crimping the spline channel with a pair of pliers. Is there a
>> downside to this?

Hehe cats too eh? I know how that goes. No, you cant keep the cat off the
ledge and will just have to rescreen now and again at their favorite laying
spots.

> probably. teach it to not do that with a squirt bottle. you can get
> cat-proof screen. you could also make (have made) an L shaped piece of
> wood that would fit over the screen edges, and screw the wood frame into
> the window frame. that would prevent the spline from come out.

His idea of the wood will just make the cat unhappy. It sits there because
it likes to be there in the breeze and watch the birds. It's worth the
trouble to have to adjust a wood framed (faster to install and fix) if you
got cats.

>> Advice appreciated and thanks in advance,
>>
>> Melissa

Hey anything for a fellow cat lover! Now to teach my 50lb dog that my 12lb
cat doesnt actually enjoy having her butt sniffed with his cold wet nose
even if she puts up with it. (Yeah that's us, cats and dogs, living in
sin).



Posted by Melissa on July 23, 2008, 2:12 pm


Mirror clips are an interesting idea. Thanks, I'll take a look.

The second idea -- the L shaped piece of wood -- would in theory
require screwing through the aluminum frame, so supposedly this is
doable?

Thanks!

Posted by charlie on July 23, 2008, 2:13 pm



> Mirror clips are an interesting idea. Thanks, I'll take a look.
>
> The second idea -- the L shaped piece of wood -- would in theory
> require screwing through the aluminum frame, so supposedly this is
> doable?
>
> Thanks!

if the length of L against the wood frame was large enough, no, you'd not
have to go through the aluminium frame.



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