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Quikrete Mix for setting fence posts??? Doug Steckel 05-16-2006
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Posted by Dan Espen on May 16, 2006, 9:20 pm

> Hello all,
>
> I'm getting some conflicting advice on the best mix to use for setting fence
> posts for a 6ft vinyl privacy fence. I've been told that any Quikrete mix
> (like the #1101) will set up if poured dry. I've also been told that the
> fast setting the fast setting #1004 is far better. Someone even told me that
> the non-fast setting will only have half the strength of the red bag, fast
> setting mix if poured dry. I'd like to save some money if possible but don't
> want to sacrifice strength over the years as this fence will catch lots of
> wind over the years.

Wind?

Sorta funny.

I put in a vinyl fence. The instructions said put concrete around the
posts, put 2 pieces or rebar inside the posts, then fill the posts with
concrete. These are 4 or 5 inch square posts.

Those posts aren't going anywhere.

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Posted by Mac Cool on May 16, 2006, 9:45 pm
http://www.quikrete.com/diy/SettingPosts.html

Dump a bucket of water in the hole and then pour in the quikrete or vice
versa, don't make it complicated. It's vinyl fencing, the vinyl will break
a million years before the concrete no matter how badly you botch the job.
--
Mac Cool

Posted by Rudy on May 17, 2006, 12:49 pm
> I've been told that any Quikrete mix (like the #1101) will set up if
> poured dry. I've also been told that the fast setting the fast setting
> #1004 is far better. Someone even told me that the non-fast setting will
> only have half the strength of the red bag, fast setting mix if poured
> dry. I'd like to save some money if possible but don't want to sacrifice
> strength

Quickcrete (brand name) is expensive. Use the no name stuff sold by Lowes
or HD..about half the price
For fencepost "anchors" it doesnt matter..Why do you need fast setting ?
Just brace the posts and let it set overnight.



Posted by Stubby on May 17, 2006, 1:29 pm
Rudy wrote:
>> I've been told that any Quikrete mix (like the #1101) will set up if
>> poured dry. I've also been told that the fast setting the fast setting
>> #1004 is far better. Someone even told me that the non-fast setting will
>> only have half the strength of the red bag, fast setting mix if poured
>> dry. I'd like to save some money if possible but don't want to sacrifice
>> strength
>
> Quickcrete (brand name) is expensive. Use the no name stuff sold by Lowes
> or HD..about half the price
> For fencepost "anchors" it doesnt matter..Why do you need fast setting ?
> Just brace the posts and let it set overnight.
>
>
But you should think about providing bearing surface rather than just a
blob on the bottom of the post. Spread it out horizontally a few
inches down in the dirt. Or use long horizontal rebar to stablize it.

Posted by PipeDown on May 17, 2006, 8:53 pm

> Hello all,
>
> I'm getting some conflicting advice on the best mix to use for setting
> fence posts for a 6ft vinyl privacy fence. I've been told that any
> Quikrete mix (like the #1101) will set up if poured dry. I've also been
> told that the fast setting the fast setting #1004 is far better. Someone
> even told me that the non-fast setting will only have half the strength of
> the red bag, fast setting mix if poured dry. I'd like to save some money
> if possible but don't want to sacrifice strength over the years as this
> fence will catch lots of wind over the years.
>
> Any advice?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug
>

For a fence post, the extra expense of quick setting or high strength is
unwarranted. The post hole concrete is a mix with more/bigger/random sized
aggregate in it and optimized to make it easier to absorb water from the
ground.

The whole concept of putting the mix in dry is a time saver. Not only do
you not have to premix the concrete but the dry mix holds the post steady
while the ground water permeates the mix and allows the chemical reaction to
occur. With mixed concrete you will need to brace the post in place while
it sets.

The ground does need to be moist or you can just dump water on top of the
mix in the hole. Sure it takes longer, sure it is not as hard, but you do
not need this for a post of a lightweight vinyl fence



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