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Railway ties oozing creosote Mamba 05-19-2008
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Posted by Red on May 20, 2008, 5:46 pm
>
> The "Oh my God, Creosote!!, panic, run" is/was nothing but a political
> movement. =A0 Yes, you could have health problems if you chewed up and
> ate enough of the treated wood but short of that, no. =A0Same with the
> dreaded "leaching".
>

The EPA Restricted Use Pesticides listing lists creosote as having
oncogenic effects (capable of producing tumors) and mutagenic effects
(capable of mutating DNA & causing cancer). A political movement? Do
I take your word it's safe or the EPA's word that it isn't safe?

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Posted by stu on May 20, 2008, 6:24 pm

>
> The "Oh my God, Creosote!!, panic, run" is/was nothing but a political
> movement. Yes, you could have health problems if you chewed up and
> ate enough of the treated wood but short of that, no. Same with the
> dreaded "leaching".
>

The EPA Restricted Use Pesticides listing lists creosote as having
oncogenic effects (capable of producing tumors) and mutagenic effects
(capable of mutating DNA & causing cancer). A political movement? Do
I take your word it's safe or the EPA's word that it isn't safe?

Do they mention any dose or exposure level?



Posted by Red on May 20, 2008, 7:04 pm
>
>
>
>
> > The "Oh my God, Creosote!!, panic, run" is/was nothing but a political
> > movement. Yes, you could have health problems if you chewed up and
> > ate enough of the treated wood but short of that, no. Same with the
> > dreaded "leaching".
>
> The EPA Restricted Use Pesticides listing lists creosote as having
> oncogenic effects (capable of producing tumors) and mutagenic effects
> (capable of mutating DNA & causing cancer). =A0A political movement? =A0Do=

> I take your word it's safe or the EPA's word that it isn't safe?
>
> Do they mention any dose or exposure level?

No, but I assume as with all products it would vary with each
individual. Some may never be affected and other's could be affected
with minimal contact.


Posted by Harry K on May 22, 2008, 10:28 am
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>
> > > The "Oh my God, Creosote!!, panic, run" is/was nothing but a political=

> > > movement. Yes, you could have health problems if you chewed up and
> > > ate enough of the treated wood but short of that, no. Same with the
> > > dreaded "leaching".
>
> > The EPA Restricted Use Pesticides listing lists creosote as having
> > oncogenic effects (capable of producing tumors) and mutagenic effects
> > (capable of mutating DNA & causing cancer). =A0A political movement? =A0=
Do
> > I take your word it's safe or the EPA's word that it isn't safe?
>
> > Do they mention any dose or exposure level?
>
> No, but I assume as with all products it would vary with each
> individual. =A0Some may never be affected and other's could be affected
> with minimal contact.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I suggest you check the references that 'aussiblu' posted. Much more
valid than the opinions of the people who pushed for the ban.

Harry K

Posted by Harry K on May 20, 2008, 11:08 pm
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>
>
> > The "Oh my God, Creosote!!, panic, run" is/was nothing but a political
> > movement. =A0 Yes, you could have health problems if you chewed up and
> > ate enough of the treated wood but short of that, no. =A0Same with the
> > dreaded "leaching".
>
> The EPA Restricted Use Pesticides listing lists creosote as having
> oncogenic effects (capable of producing tumors) and mutagenic effects
> (capable of mutating DNA & causing cancer). =A0A political movement? =A0Do=

> I take your word it's safe or the EPA's word that it isn't safe?

As I said. It was a political movement run by the ecofreaks and
mommies who thought their little darlings were in danger on the
playground. That battle raged for years before the EPA caved in even
though noone ever came up with a case were it caused a problem.

One of the problems was the ?arsenic? content (may have been one of
the other highly dangerous poisons) in spite of the fact that many
regions have that chemical as a natural portion (very slight) of the
drinking water.

The truth is that almost _everything_ is carcinogenic given a large
enough doseage. Even water is fatal if overdosed.

Harry K

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