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Railway ties oozing creosote Mamba 05-19-2008
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Posted by Harry K on May 23, 2008, 9:42 am
> "My state of WA" is the state of Western Australia.
>
> --
> Regards
> Blue
>
> Remove ZX from email address to reply directly.

And once again I was bitten by the 'parochrial bug'. I got bit by
that not very many days ago also.

Harry K

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Posted by Harry K on May 23, 2008, 9:42 am
> "My state of WA" is the state of Western Australia.
>
> --
> Regards
> Blue
>
> Remove ZX from email address to reply directly.

And I see I did it again in my other reply.

Harry K

Posted by aussiblu on May 23, 2008, 9:23 am
Actually I am now confused too about its legality in Australia.

See http://www.baddevelopers.green.net.au/Docs/toxictimber.htm
"Currently in Australia that are about 130 CCA plants, 35 boron
plants and baths, 11 light organic solvent preservative (LOSP)
plants, 4 creosote plants, ...."

but it also notes:

"Since the introduction of bans on the use of creosote and
pentachlorophenol, chromated copper arsenate (CCA) has emerged
as the most popular form of wood treatment. "


A check through the Australian legislation database at
http://www.austlii.edu.au does indicate it is scheduled poison
and a Class B Activity under Section 42 of the Commonwealth
(Federal) Environmental Protection Act but all this means is
that areas covered by Commonwealth rather than state
jurisdiction:

' person shall not conduct an activity listed in Schedule 1 as a
Class B activity unless the person-
(a) is a party to an environmental protection
agreement that is in effect in respect of that activity; or
(b) holds an environmental authorisation in respect
of that activity. "

There is also a lot of various Australian State legislation
preventing its use in the marine environment and prescribing
occupational health and safety requirements for its use. My
conclusion is while its list and sales is restricted its use is
not yet banned.

NB In Australia the constitution restricts the legislative
powers of the Commonwealth to things like:
trade and commerce with other countries, and among the States [s
51(i)];
taxation [s 51(ii)];
defence [s 51(vi)];
corporations [s 51(xx)];
immigration [s 51(xxvii)]; and
external affairs [s 51(xxix)].
Of course having power over tax legislation gives it a very
powerful lever over the states.




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Blue

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Posted by aussiblu on May 23, 2008, 9:30 am
One of our State government Departments is recommending the use
of creosote here
http://agspsrv34.agric.wa.gov.au/Ento/termites.htm (the
Agriculture Department of WA) so I doubt it is banned.
"Creosote can be an effective timber preservative, preventing
termite attack and wood rot. Protection depends upon the depth
of penetration. Simply brushing creosote on wood surfaces gives
little protection. Multiple applications by brush are better,
but preferably soak the timber in creosote for at least 48
hours. All cutting and hole boring should be completed before
soaking. Round fence posts of seasoned softwood timber, with
sapwood present and the bark removed, can be successfully
treated in a similar manner. "

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Blue

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Posted by Harry K on May 23, 2008, 9:39 am
> One of our State government Departments is recommending the use
> of creosote herehttp://agspsrv34.agric.wa.gov.au/Ento/termites.htm(the
> Agriculture Department of WA) so I doubt it is banned.
> "Creosote can be an effective timber preservative, preventing
> termite attack and wood rot. Protection depends upon the depth
> of penetration. Simply brushing creosote on wood surfaces gives
> little protection. Multiple applications by brush are better,
> but preferably soak the timber in creosote for at least 48
> hours. All cutting and hole boring should be completed before
> soaking. Round fence posts of seasoned softwood timber, with
> sapwood present and the bark removed, can be successfully
> treated in a similar manner. "
>
> --
> Regards
> Blue
>
> Remove ZX from email address to reply directly.

Hmmm...I was hoping to find a date on that with no luck. I did find
dates at the end in the list of cites for other documents with the
latest one of 1993 - that would be near the time the ban was enacted
but I think it was prior.

That report is also another one from Australia - looks like the WA.GOV
agency just stole it in it's entirety.

Harry K

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